October 21, 201213 yr Hi I have upgraded to a 27" Dell U2711 monitor, I run a 2nd dell 17" monitor to drag CDU, REX, & FS Build to, since installing the 27" dell I have lost some frame rate, would It be better adding a second Graphics card to run the 2nd small Dell monitor, and hopefully that would put my frame rates back up again? Thanks in advance for any suggestions on this one I have attached my original spec below edmundo
October 21, 201213 yr Your FPS has probably dropped because of the ultra high resolution. Running an extra monitor for only a few simple applications on the desktop shouldn't hurt performance at all. Not in my case at least. Try disconnecting the 2nd monitor and see if there's any difference. A 2nd graphics card normally doesn't help btw. FSX doesn't support SLI, however some say it does help with high resolutions (multiple monitors), and AA. Arjen Vandervelde
October 22, 201213 yr would It be better adding a second Graphics card to run the 2nd small Dell monitor, and hopefully that would put my frame rates back up again? Definitely not. 2nd GPU won't bring back the FPS, going high resolutions costs when it comes to FSX. You're stuck, just like I am (also running 2560x1440 on 27inches).
October 22, 201213 yr This is why I could never bring myself to running surround video. (More than two monitors). Looks fantastic but despise giving up performance.
October 22, 201213 yr Rendi, do you actually know why performance suffers? Ever tried running without any panels or VC? All those sims that have the peripheral view, beamers and such, usually run scenery view only. Now, I believe that performs really well. It is only when we start introducing panels is when the performance suffers. Clouds too, but not that much. And panels are one thing you don't need in a full sized cockpit!
October 22, 201213 yr I guess I never though about it Word Not Allowed. Specially the large commercial simulators. I dont understand why you would want to run without a panel view? I "see" your point.! No gauges etc to render. I could also see having a number of computers sharing the load. One or two for scenery one or two for panels. Well... Project Magenta or P3D Multi Channel. HOW do folks get away running 3 monitors @ 5760x 3600 resolution?
October 22, 201213 yr Commercial Member Rendi, do you actually know why performance suffers? Ever tried running without any panels or VC? All those sims that have the peripheral view, beamers and such, usually run scenery view only. Now, I believe that performs really well. It is only when we start introducing panels is when the performance suffers. Clouds too, but not that much. And panels are one thing you don't need in a full sized cockpit! Exactly... Running without any complex panel/VC will definitely help with FPS. I guess I never though about it Word Not Allowed's. I dont understand why you would want to run without a panel view? I "see" your point.! No gauges etc to render. Usually those of us who run without panels, is because we have "real" panels to look at. ;-) No need to look at on-screen gauges, panels or VCs. Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
October 22, 201213 yr Usually those of us who run without panels, is because we have "real" panels to look at. ;-) No need to look at on-screen gauges, panels or VCs. \ Ahh! So, 1000's of dollars worth of hardware.
October 22, 201213 yr Commercial Member \ Ahh! So, 1000's of dollars worth of hardware. Not yet but eventually, yes! LOL Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
October 22, 201213 yr Commercial Member LOL. A long term commitment. Aren't we all whether it is a full size cockpit or a desktop? Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
October 23, 201213 yr Specially the large commercial simulators. Those big commercial simulators, like CAE or AXIS, don't have as nearly complex scenery as FSX does. I've recently seen an AXIS ATR simulator, and the graphics were on par with a bit better default FSX scenery. Not nearly as complicated as FSDT would create for example. Now, take away the scenery complexity, aircraft panels, lower res clouds, and what do you have? 60FPS and higher without a single glitch... And they are of course running multiple computer running systems, graphics, instructor station etc. So having a full sized cockpit, one computer running the scenery and a 2nd one for displays (PM) would perform much better than 3x27inches display on the single card running NGX VC... but you would have to have a $60,000 737 full sized cockpit. Or at least the captain's side with everything necessary.
October 23, 201213 yr That's right, i tried A320 FFS recently at Lufthansa training center. Sceneries are not so complicated, and i don't think they have AI traffic at all - i saw only 3 static aircrafts(parked) at Frankfurt airport. I saw road traffic, but not so detailed, i mean is not looking good. One more important thing, Full Flight Simulator which costs more than 20 milions of Euro(25 if i remember well), needs 5 to 10min to load scenery. We are asked to choose one airport before we entered FFS, to save some time So, maybe fsx is not so bad as many people's are saying. And fsx load's all world and all sceneries that you have instaled - in about 20-30s. The only thing that really bothers me is the lack of smoothnest with fsx. FS9 runs much better for heavies. It's annoying that we spend so much time(and mooney) tweaking/tuning fsx and PC, and we still get 12-15 fps with UK2000 Heathrow for example, or some other really big airports. Not to mention stutters, or loss of fps in bad weater. After all tweaking, i can't belive that i still can get slideshow in some circumstances. I don't know, FFS are probably able to run much complex sceneries, but they are interested in flying, multicrew and procedures more than in visual aspects Zeljko Budovic
October 23, 201213 yr and we still get 12-15 fps with UK2000 Heathrow What I already wrote: try removing any cockpits in Heathrow and sit on the runway. I am getting way above 30fps. What do you need for more smoothness? I don't know, FFS are probably able to run much complex sceneries, but they are interested in flying, multicrew and procedures more than in visual aspects I don't think they are. Maybe a bit more, but definitely not FSX graphics. These things are definitely made for flying, aspects of flying and flying performance. Not eye candy.
October 23, 201213 yr What I already wrote: try removing any cockpits in Heathrow and sit on the runway. I am getting way above 30fps. What do you need for more smoothness? I need only home build cockpit! I know, I thought about it. You are absolutely right. Zeljko Budovic
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