Patched installed (waste of time). Flying today around Portland and Seattle with todays date and the Northwest looks like summer textures. Go to St. Louis , nice fall colors. Back to Portland, green summer textures. Had fall textures yesterday when I was flying pre-patch in Seattle. I lived in the Northwest for 6 years and I know there is a lot of evergreens, but believe me Seattle has plenty of trees that have fall colors. Anyone else get this?

Same here. Nice observation. Hopefully there is a simple solution. Checked my seasons for the area and it shows Fall and October. Strange.Jim Young

I just rechecked everything again, and there is no fall textures for the northwest. Winter looks like winter, and summer looks like summer, but spring and fall are identical, the exact same textures. Maybe that's how they fixed their seasanal CTDs, by getting rid of fall. Typical MS. I'll sell you some bridges for some fall textures.

Suggest you set your date to October 20th-that is when the trees in the Pacific Northwest turn colors on my patched setup.Where I live in Michigan-the trees usually start turning in mid to late august-but this year they haven't really started turning till right now.The sim changes them in Michigan on September 20th-which is pretty close for most years-but this year about 10 days too early-last year it would have been pretty much spot on.The flight sim obviously has a date scheme of when to turn them-and it seems to vary by geographic region which I think is pretty amazing. Other than having a "live internet" download of when to start changing leaves for a particular area when they actually start changing-I don't them deciding to turn on a certain average date as a problem-especially since they seem to do it on a different reasonable date for geographic areas. Looks like they are 10 days off from reality in your area for this year-not a big deal imho...http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

Guys, you live in the Northwest? I do...The absense of fall colors was one of the great disappointments I felt when I moved to Seattle from Pennsylvania.I'm talking real world, not flightsim.You realize the flightsim team also lives here? :-))Bob Bernstein

I lived in Seattle for 6 years recently (got smart and moved back to Florida, couldn't handle the depressing overcast skies). I remember seeing a lot of fall colors on the tree, granted not like the eastern US but still, I saw a lot of fall colors. My beef is that there are no fall colors at all now for the northwest. I even changed the date to mid november and still everything is green, even in the cascades. That ain't right.

Try October 21.....ksea here...http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/93818.jpg

"Maybe that's how they fixed their seasanal CTDs, by getting rid of fall. Typical MS. I'll sell you some bridges for some fall textures."And I got a bridge to sell you for every conspiracy theory I hear... Funny how the low time posters seem to be coming out of the woodwork with some of these comments...Looks like fall to me...Just out of KPDX, Date 10/21/03...http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/93819.jpg

I noticed there are fall colors in the city the third week in october. I was flying in the cascades same time and there's not much fall colors there when I was testing it. I guess they are considering all the evergreen trees in the cascades. It just looks to much like summer for me. I know leaves "start" changing colors in Seattle in September. I'll deal with it.

Hi Guy,Just fly from Orlando Executive and you will see all the fall changes you never see in Orlando. Fly about 20m South and you will find the palm trees we do have in Orlando.MS uses a season mask. It doesn't match everywhere in the world but is representative of much of the world.BTW, do you prefer depressing overcast skies or hurricanes?W. SieffertOrlando, FL

"BTW, do you prefer depressing overcast skies or hurricanes?"lolwe get what we get....many folks ask how I can handle the 6 months of gray cool drizzle...and I remember how I hated the icy cold snowy winters and suffocatingly hot 95 degree 95% humidity summers I used to have growing up in Pennsyvania. We've had threat from volcano again...you guys had a freaky hurricane season, tornadoes in the midwest...too cold in the north central, fires in California...

Funny coincedence, that's where I live now, native Floridian. Nothing against you guys in Seattle. 3 months out of the year it's the most beautiful place in the world, the other 9 months are depressing. I've found out that most of the people in Seattle who have lived there their whole life love it there and wouldn't live anywhere else. I, on the other hand missed my morning sunshine and couldn't deal with the lack of a real summer. Most of the time in Seattle, if the sun comes out, it comes out about an hour before it sets. Talk about living under a cloud. I know what you mean about the fall colors in Orlando in FS. If we get fall colors here, it's in late December if then.

I hear what your saying. Having lived all my life in Seattle I start feeling a bit depressed if it doesn't rain for a while (seriously). Sounds strange but when you come to appreciate the weather in a particular region you lived in for a long time, habitating in an area with the opposite weather effects people in some werid ways.BTW, the month I hate the most would have to be August. Just too much damn sun.Cheers (in a rainy way)Austin

Just cant resist;Bill Cosby used to have a routine about Seattle, something like...When the sun comes out up there all the natives look up at thesky, shake thier fist and cry WHY US?Its so damp up there peoples skin gets all puckered and wrinkled,like when you've been swimming.Instead of complimenting someone on thier "Tan" you say "Nicewrinkles".:-lol :-beerchug DN

Hmmmm, well, here's another Pac NWer weighing in. I lived in Seattle for 34 years and then moved to Everett (Paine Field, now) a few years ago. I'm one of those who LIKES the weather here; it just SEEMS like it never is sunshiny and glorious. And when I read about those eastern blizzards and those south eastern hurricanes and those southwestern tornados, why, I just thank the good Lord that I live right here in the PNW. :DP.S. We really only have two seasons here in the PNW; wet and dry. Those who live here will know what I mean. :D