June 8, 201312 yr This is not a feature exclusive only to the Boeing 777, I believe. It is all about the FMC, and i want to know how to extend the localizer from the FMC to allow an earlier localizer capture! Saif Salama
June 9, 201312 yr It's a relatively simple procedure...common to all modern Boeing Aircraft. It is normally used when on ATC radar vectors & also helps maintain situational awareness & keeps the ND 'tidy' thus reducing clutter. You are actually creating an 'extended centreline' to the runway in question by using the DIRECT INTERCEPT (DIR INTC) technique to either the actual RWY entry in the LEGs Page, or alternatively an approach FIX in the LEGs Page that is positioned along the runway centreline. The transmitting range of the Localiser Transmitter is finite. The Boeing terminology is Intercepting a Leg (Course) to a Waypoint See the PMDG NGX FCOMv1 SP.11.5 (pp235) for the official guidance. When creating an 'extended centreline' it is best to select lower modes of PITCH (FLCH, V/S or ALT HOLD) & ROLL (HDG SEL) automation. These lower levels or modes of automation are sometimes referred to as 'Tactical Modes'. You must always remember that any modifications to the LEGS page will undoubtedly alter the VNAV PTH - & this can complicate the issue as the track miles to the RWY or WPT will reduce dramatically in most cases. Use a lower level of automation! Established downwind with a 'busy' ND prior to any LEGS Page modifications: Approach WPT copied into SCRATCHPAD: Steve Bell "Wise men talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something." - Plato (latterly attributed to Saul Bellow) The most useful tool on the AVSIM Fora ... 'Mark forum as read'
June 9, 201312 yr Don't forget that when you perform the DIR INTC you must enter an Inbound Course (INB CRS) at LSK 6R BEFORE you EXEC any changes. INBD CRS entered into SCRATCHPAD: INBD CRS copied to LSK 6R: EXEC button pressed: Finally.... In theory you could intercept this extended centreline using LNAV well beyond the range of the associated ground based Localiser Transmitter (IRL ranges vary): Using HDG SEL & ALT HOLD to intercept the ILS these are lower modes/levels of automation than say LNAV & VNAV. Note that VNAV is still displaying PTH info on the right side of the ND because the APP WPT we selected had an associated ALT entry on the LEGs Page: Steve Bell "Wise men talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something." - Plato (latterly attributed to Saul Bellow) The most useful tool on the AVSIM Fora ... 'Mark forum as read'
June 9, 201312 yr Author Don't forget that when you perform the DIR INTC you must enter an Inbound Course (INB CRS) at LSK 6R BEFORE you EXEC any changes. INBD CRS entered into SCRATCHPAD: INBD CRS copied to LSK 6R: EXEC button pressed: Finally.... In theory you could intercept this extended centreline using LNAV well beyond the range of the associated ground based Localiser Transmitter (IRL ranges vary): Using HDG SEL & ALT HOLD to intercept the ILS these are lower modes/levels of automation than say LNAV & VNAV. Note that VNAV is still displaying PTH info on the right side of the ND because the APP WPT we selected had an associated ALT entry on the LEGs Page: I LOVE YOU!! THIS IS EVEN EXPLAINED BETTER THAN MY MATHS TEACHER THANK YOU SO MUC Saif Salama
June 9, 201312 yr Commercial Member Nice job Steve, that's exactly how you do it! Ryan MaziarzFor fastest support, please submit a ticket at http://support.precisionmanuals.com
June 10, 201312 yr Happy to have helped. Steve Bell "Wise men talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something." - Plato (latterly attributed to Saul Bellow) The most useful tool on the AVSIM Fora ... 'Mark forum as read'
June 10, 201312 yr Depending on the sim software obviously, but in the aircraft, when you are close to the destination ILS (the ILS shows up < 250nm to go) you can select the inbound course with the following. Dep/Arr page LSK6R will give you the inbound intercept course to the final approach fix for the ILS. eg (something like): INTCPT ILL40 <-- It's a bit quicker than the above but, as stated, I'm not sure what mod state the simulator FMC is. GregL :-)
June 10, 201312 yr A picture paints a thousand words (and avoids ambiguity as has been seen on another thread!!!!) So: Here you go, from the Fcom. the final intercept course is the LSK6R, it WILL drop all waypoints from your current position to that waypoint and give you an automatic extended centreline. Use it when in HDG SEL. Enjoy. Achieved with a single button press and execute. GregL :-)
June 11, 201312 yr Author A picture paints a thousand words (and avoids ambiguity as has been seen on another thread!!!!) So: Here you go, from the Fcom. the final intercept course is the LSK6R, it WILL drop all waypoints from your current position to that waypoint and give you an automatic extended centreline. Use it when in HDG SEL. Enjoy. Achieved with a single button press and execute. YES, you are certainly right, it is really faster!! thank you Saif Salama
June 12, 201312 yr The above information on intercepting waypoints on specific headings is invaluable! Often, especially in the Caribbean, you will be asked to intercept beacons on specific radials and the way given by G-CIVA is excellent. Either that or you can drop the beacon into the FIX page and project a radial out and fly that, just don't forget to fly it in TRK and the computer will handle the drift for you! Happy landings. GregL :-)
June 12, 201312 yr Steve and Greg, thanks for your valuable input, much appreaciated by myself and others no doubt. I'll be looking forward to trying the above when she's released Alaister Kay
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