Hi

 

 I got a interesting question?

I was looking up Skyvector and I noticed that there is no airways over or around Ireland

 

now is this just a flaw in the website or is that true and how would one find a map with the routes on or around Ireland

 

 

 

thanks

 

Ian Snow

 

I have meant to look for an answer to that myself. Ro would be the perfect guy to answer this question

 

Personally when flying inside Ireland I switch skyvector to the “World Lo” tab.

I'm here, Ró to the rescue...  ^_^

 

In Ireland a number of years ago the IAA implemented a fuel saving project known as ENSURE that basically involves clearing aircraft straight through our airspace direct to the other side. It's resulted in massive fuel savings since its introduction. That's why there are no high level airways through Irish Airspace. The ENSURE project is being examined by other countries now for implementation in foreign airspace.

 

Regards,

Ró.

Told you he was the perfect person to ask :lol:

 

Thanks Ró,

Told you he was the perfect person to ask :lol:

 

Thanks Ró,

You're welcome...  ^_^

 

Lucky this had Ireland in the topic name or I probably never would have found it...  :blink:  :blush:

 

Regards,

Ró.

In Australia, while we still have high-level airways, our ATS provider decided they would introduce regions of UPR's (User Preferred Routes). Operators are now able to track DCT via numerous fixes rather than airways which could add extra track miles and not neccesarily take advantage of the wind. UPR's allow operators to track via traditional navaids, intersections and lat/long's as long as they fall into the 'UPR region'.

 

Pretty neat IMO, and I also like the idea that the Irish came up with

Yes, IIRC they introduced the UPR system about 18 months ago down in Australia. We had a few controllers up here in Ireland learning how the system worked for a few months about 2-3 years ago, was always funny to hear the accent over the radios, I think one lady was still here up until a few months ago working SNN center.

 

UPR is basically ENSURE, but obviously over a much larger scale due to the size of Australia.

 

Regards,

Ró.

Brilliant idea, makes complete sense.     And actually, probably safer as the risk of collision reduces, where aircraft are moving between fixes at more 'random' bearings, rather than everyone 'driving' along the same airway.

Hi

 

     thanks for the answer RO

that is a very smart way of doing things

 

 

 

 

Ian Snow

 

Hi

 

Thanks for the answer Ró.

That is a very smart way of doing things.

 

Ian Snow

No bother, glad I could help.  ^_^

 

Regards,

Ró.