Hi,My dad was a navy cadet in the late '50s. He flew T-34's and washed out in the T-28 portion of the flight training. Does anybody have a list of what a typical training regimen would have been for a Naval cadet in this period, and what planes they would have gone on to from there?Thanks,Thomas Perry

The normal pipeline...Primary TrainingT-34C Turbomentor or T-6A Texan II.(Not all squadrons have T-6 yet)After PT the decision is made based on current/projected needs of the services, student's performance, and preferences. Student Naval Aviators are selectd for:MaritimeE-2/C-2RotaryStrike E-6 TACAMOMaritime SNAsComplete Advanced Training in the T-44 Pegasus or TC-12 HuronThen finish with the P-3 Fleet Replacement Squadron, for Navy and the C-130 FRS for Marines.E-2/C-2 SNAs Complete Intermediate Training in the T-44 PegasusComplete Advanced Training in the T-45 Goshawk.Then finsh with the E-2/C-2 FRS.Rotary SNAsComplete Advanced Training in the TH-57 Sea Ranger.Then finish with the FRS for one of the following Helos:SH-60, CH-46, or H-53 for NavyAH-1, CH-46, MH-53, or UH-1 for MarinesStrike SNAsComplete Advanced Training in the T-45 GoshawkThen off the one of the following FRS'sF-14 (Though pretty sure this one has been shutdown.)F/A-18S-3EA-6BE-6 TACAMO SNAsComplete advanced Training in the USAF T-1A Jayhawk at Vance AFB Then off to the E-6 FRS.:-outtahttp://publish.hometown.aol.com/p3superb/i...s/sign_name.jpgThere is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness".- unknown"My daddy gives me up, to fight for you"- a US Military Members Child

Think the request was for the "old school" regimen.Meaning T-34b's...followed by later T-2 Buckeyes or TA-4 Skyhawks.Not sure when the T-28 dropped from the tweener regimen.Eric

Yes, my dad definately flew T-28's, he was just about to solo in it when he was washed out.If anybody knows locations for training, that would be cool, too. I believe this was somewhere around '55 - '58 that he was in.Thanks, though, for what was sent.I have been very interested for a long time in developing training regimen for combat simulators. As is well known, many aviators died in training, it wasn't easy. I've always thought it would be really cool to give the option to fly through an accurate simulated training exercise for any combat sim, be it WWI, WWII or any other time. Some of the best parts of books I have read by pilots of prior wars was their time in training.But in particular, in this case, I've got good T-34's and T-28's in MSFS, I'm just hoping to be able to simulate what it was like when my dad was in.Thanks,Thomas Perry

https://www.cnatra.navy.mil/index.htm:-outtahttp://publish.hometown.aol.com/p3superb/i...s/sign_name.jpgThere is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness".- unknown"My daddy gives me up, to fight for you"- a US Military Members Child

Primary traing in T-34s was done at Saufley NAS in Pensacola Fla. Then to Whiting NAS just outside Pensacola in Milton FL for T-28's. Jet training was in TF-9 Cougars, of which a few were flying in 1973 when I was in NAV training, as the T2 Buckeye was the "new" jet, The jet training would most likely have been in Merian Mississippi. For Multi-engine Props, after t-28s they would have gone to the Grumman S-2 Trucker, probably at NAS Corpus Christi TX. From there among others they could go to c-130 or P-3 Orions on the East or West Cost. And at that time they could have gone to EC Super Connie's for Electronic Warfare. And, we can't forget about Helos. This initial training (UH-1 Hueys's) was done at NAS Ellyson just north of Penscola regional airport. In teh Pensacola area were out-lying practice fields (for touch & go's etc) which included Santa Rosa OLF, Bronson OLF, Barin, SummerDal, Magnolia, and Silverhill. T think that several of these are still depicted in FS. Bill GKSAT

This is great information. However, what I am looking for is - What would each of the actual lessons be? What would be done for each flight. For instanceT-34Flight 1 - 2 hours; Introduction to flightFlight 2 - 2 hours; Takeoffs, stalls, landings...Flight 16 - 2 hours; Formation flying...Move to T-28....What texts would be used in ground school?That kind of thing. In fact, I'd need even more detail than that, like, where would the practice be done. Enough information so that a training regimen could be recreated. I'd love to extend this to what a WWI or WWII era pilot would do. I've read quite a few books that include similar information like this, although they usually just contain anecdotes, and not a day to day diary.I assume this would be too much for an Forum post. The stuff at the Chief of Naval Air Training is exactly what I am looking for, except that I am looking for the publications from the mid-late '50's. Where would I get this information? I do have my dad's flight book somewhere, though I think it is at my ex's at the moment. But I don't think it had much detail in it, just dates and signoffs.My purpose here is really just for myself, so that I can go through this stuff on my own. But I think this is worthy of actual research for a product that could be released. But if anybody could get me started by pointing me to documents etc., I would appreciate it.Thanks,Thomas

That's going to be pretty hard to find, Hopefully there are a few "packrats" out there. Best Wishes though!Bill G

Well, I can't tell you what the program was back then, but I can tell you what the program is now. I'm 3 flights from getting my wings. Before Primary, there is API. Pubs are here: https://cnatra.navaltx.navy.mil/cnatra/ppub...ir_sch_comm.htm API is conducted at NAS Pensacola. If you make it through that, then you find yourself on to Primary T-34C Ground School. Generally, Navy Primary is either completed at NAS Whiting Field FL or NAS Corpus Christi TX. Although, there are those few unfortunate Navy/Marine souls that get snagged to train with the Air Force. we Coasties all train at Whiting for Primary then either Whiting for Helos or Corpus for Fixed Wing. You can find the current Navy publications for Primary here: https://cnatra.navaltx.navy.mil/cnatra/ppub_t34_pri.htm Under a normal Primary syllabus, you do Day Contact stage first, with some Basic Instruments (BI's) mixed in, then Night Contact, then Aerobatics, then *usually* Basic Formation followed by Cruise Form, then on into RI's. Then, depending what you want and well you do, it's onto Advanced Training. Either helos at NAS Whiting Field, Maritime/Props at NAS Corpus Christi TX flying either the T-44A or C-12, or T-45's at NAS Kingsville TX or NAS Meridian MS. Can find those pubs at https://cnatra.navaltx.navy.mil/cnatra/Patpub.htm I'm unable to locate the syllabus pdf files.

Is the Navy still using this software https://wwwcfs.cnet.navy.mil/microsimptt/ as part of pilot training?

Yes. It's not part of the syllabus, but the machines are available when students want to use them. I was part of a study they conducted last year. It seems people high up don't want to spend the money on the program, thinking it's not valuable. To prove it was, they conducted a study. I found it very useful to learn procedures. We have regular simulators available, but they have no visual. The sims are fine for instruments, but for VFR stuff (ie pattern work, slow flight, steep turns, etc), not so useful. I would fly my instrument hop in the microsim (flight sim) before my graded sim event. Was nice to see what the instruments would look like before getting in the actual sim with an instructor sitting outside. I still enjoy breaking out the ole T-34 and having a go. Fun plane to fly. :) Might I add, the RIOT trainer on that page you listed is great for getting down your instrument/navaid orientation :)http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/106713.jpg

Is that fs2002 or fs2004? I don't recognize that panel, I did download the 400 meg navy microsim add-on for fs2002 from the link that I posted above when it was available last year before it was removed from the download section, but I don't believe that is the T-34 panel that came with it.

Hello All, Just to toss in a tidbit, all the new 'Tom Cruise' waanna be pilots seem to make it here to Meridian NAS in Meridian MS. Being an USAF guy, we use to call them 'Navy Pukes', however I can tell you, that most of these young men are pretty darn sharp, as the level of training they get today is far and above what we got when I was doing my stint.My horse farm is right in the flight path of 'touch and go's' for the Meridian NAS and we see them daily, (they also scare the bejesus out of my horses on some low pass's occasionally) but I have to smile everytime one flies over my place, as I'm an pilot to the bone, and we have to train these fine young men somewhere.Oh, and you wouldn't believe how many 'cafe racer' type motorcycles these newbies ride . . . 'Top Gun' was the best Navy recruitment commercial ever made. Best to all, Clayhttp://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...ers/Dopke01.jpgClayton T. Dopke (Clay)Major, USAF (retired)"Drac"

My dad was a flight leader on a 104 squadron, and he got guys that came in with 5 or 6 hours on harvards, then about 10 on t-33's, then they got transferred to cold lake for 104 training and got an initiation and about another 10 hours. Then dad got them, and what do you do with them? Excuse me, we're doing a low level through the ruhr valley at just under mach, and that's if you count mach, whitch we don't, and at grass level. Want to come? We've lost 10 or 15 pilots there before. Some did, and they stayed, some didn't, and they graduated to DC-3's.billg

It's Alphasim's T-34C:-outtahttp://publish.hometown.aol.com/p3superb/i...s/sign_name.jpgThere is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness".- unknown"My daddy gives me up, to fight for you"- a US Military Members Child