Some day, if we get really lucky, and Clay has had a few drinks too many, he might tell us what he was doing in south america with the 727's. billg

Bill,Trust me, there are many out there in government land who really don't want me to go there LOL. Not to mention the fact that I am not yet bored with breathing .Let's just say the story is very well known by many, and talked about by very few. Lastly, if you've been around these forums long enough it's very obvious which branch of our government based out of Langley I use to work for years ago . . . it's not too hard to put together the pieces of that puzzle.As Sgt. Shultz of Hogans Hero's use to say " . . . I know nothnig . . . I see nothing . . ."Best to all,Clay

I am indeed an engineer (software engineer that is) :=lol

that's why it's so intruiging, yes, I know, and everone else does to, what's at langley. So tell us, at least, some of the situations, from a purely pilot point of view, where you were. And how you did it. I'm assuming that there were a few night flights without lights, and runways that didn't have ILS stuff. That's not in your non-disclosure. Share that with us. billg

Langley? Isn't that that independent shipping company which sometimes does rather odd jobs for the Pentagon and White House?Air America or something like thatt? :-lol

no, it's my house cleaners. Tell us Clay. At least one story. Then we'll stop bugging you.

wow, I worked at a company that when I left, I couldn't work anywhere else for 3 years. But I made them pay for that. Now, it's over, and, quite frankly, I'm wondering what the fuss was all about. But hey, don't give dates, or addresses, give us the feel, tell us what it felt like. That's what we want. rgds,bill gardiner

well ok then. I have one for you. My dad used to fly starfighters, 104's, and was a flight leader of the recce squadron based in Lahr, west germany. He would get coords that he didn't want to think about, but had to take a picture. And low, and fast. They gave him 5 wafers of 1 ounce gold, just in case he didn't get back. That's like 30 years ago, back when there was something we now call in the history books a red menace. There were a few assingments like that, but he flew every one, unless he needed help. Then he'd drop into 3 wing or 4 wing, they flew the intercetptors, and then they'd fly formation until they did it. Are you asking? Yes, I'll tell you. He did. Many times. Flew over the border into East Germany, low and fast, taking pictures all the time. so there.... billg

Hello Again Fellow Simmers,I wanted to let you know that I have been contacted by another Member of the C-130 Captain Sim team and I am again on track to help the Team as they see fit . The email that I received from Captain Sim expressed gratitude for the help that I have so far provided and I wanted to Publicly Thank Them for that. I do not know and will not be asking them for a Beta release date of their C-130 as I personally feel that a " Rush" Job would not be in the best interest of a simmer who would like as much realism as possible. I do know that the C-130 is a complex aircraft as is any aircraft, and trying to simulate as much realism as possible has to be a time consuming process.I am encouraged and wish the Captain Sim Team all the best as they continue their efforts to Update their Website and work on future releases....Fly safe allDaveU.S. Coast Guard (Retired)HC-130H Flight Engineer.

Well... I'm the saddest of us all (grin!), for in a sense I'm both. On the one hand I am indeed autistic, while on the other hand I'm a politician which is kind of similar to a rattlesnake (bashful grin)! The only thing missing is the axolotl, but that's compensated for in my house and yard by nine cats, six pet rats, two gerbils, four chickens, five rabbits, and a pond with some thirty goldfish. Not a single axolotl among them though...Be well!Jaap "Rainman" Verduijn.

Greetings Clay!"(...) I would have been more than proud to have this young man care for my aircraft any day (...)"That's kinda putting it the wrong way around, Clay (grin)! A top crew chief might, after long hesitation, tentatively trust you to fly HIS aircraft. It's kind of like marriage: only after we prove thoroughly to our wife that we are not utter spendthrifts and can be trusted with little sums of money, we are hesitatingly allowed to handle some minor coinage of what we believe is OUR paycheck, but what she will never cease to tell you is in fact HERS (wide and wicked grin)!Be well!Jaap Verduijn.

before tonight I had never heard of an axolotl. Now, they're running rampant. They're all over. It's an axolotl world...billg

Yes Bill, and the worst thing is that they are masters of disguise! They imitate the looks of major world leaders, and are already far advanced in taking over the planet. There's only one (albeit far from fail-safe) way to determine whether George W. Bush (for Americans) or Queen Beatrix (for me and other Dutch) are the real thing, or axolotls in disguise: axolotls in their public speaches NEVER make sense, but ALWAYS talk nonsense. You see: it's a shaky criterium to say the least!Be well!Jaap Verduijn.

Well, clearly then, we have an axolotls outbreak in the Whitehouse. I'm not sure about Queenie, whenever I think of a Queen I think of pantyhose and then high heels and then my mind starts to wander. Well, it dosn't really wander, it just get more focused. So I'll give Queenie a break for now. But yes, I see what you mean. These little axolotls are incidious, fastidiously incidious little axolotls they are...billg

Why would CS have fled, while there website is still in the air and their salescompany servicing there sales etc still is working and costing a lot of money?If they had left the stage, wouldn't serviceproviders have shut the website etc down? CS indeed isn't very communicative but all these semi 'anti-russian' innuendo's are not very productive I guess. I never had any problems with there products and or support. If I had any questions they instantly replied and replaced key's etc. I own the F104, Yak and think they still are great quality products.Rob "Holland&Holland" de Vries http://www.emotipad.com/emoticons/Flying.gif"To go up, pull the stick back. To go down, pull the stick back harder"