I can download from PMDG documentation there. It's free. There have also B737 tutorial 1 and 2

 

I was referring  to the ngx  manuals(fcoms  and the qrf) which you cant  download  for  free which are  about 3000 pages. you only get  this buy purchasing the ngx in a pdf format

 

I can download from PMDG documentation there. It's free. There have also B737 tutorial 1 and 2

Hello Owen, 

 

here is my suggestion: if you know nothing of liners, then the Mike Rays' book is an excellent intro for newbies, but, if you want to learn and know how to fly the NGX, and how it behaves, what it can and cannot do, after a few flights read the manuals. They come as pdf with the software, so you do not have to buy anything else, once you purchased the NGX. On the PMDG website you may download the introduction, a must read, and the two tutorials, which will give you a very good starting point. But, like I said, if you want to "learn" how the B737 NG behaves, you'll have to go through the manuals, eventually. Just as an example, in the FCOM Volume two, there is a whole section on the automated systems, like the AFDS and the MCP functions, and one entire section, with pictures, on the FMC, where it tells you everything you can do with it, very clear and in depth. With all this info available, I believe you'll be set, just find the time and patience to learn, all the info you'll need is there, 

 

Enrico 

I was referring  to the ngx  manuals(fcoms  and the qrf) which you cant  download  for  free which are  about 3000 pages. you only get  this buy purchasing the ngx in a pdf format

 

 

yeah. I know that (fcoms and qrf) which I cannot download from free. but the tutorial 1 and 2 which is you can download for free.

but I would like to ask you if default boeing 737 or any freeware boeing 737 can doing manual operation inside the system ?

Hello Owen, 

 

here is my suggestion: if you know nothing of liners, then the Mike Rays' book is an excellent intro for newbies, but, if you want to learn and know how to fly the NGX, and how it behaves, what it can and cannot do, after a few flights read the manuals. They come as pdf with the software, so you do not have to buy anything else, once you purchased the NGX. On the PMDG website you may download the introduction, a must read, and the two tutorials, which will give you a very good starting point. But, like I said, if you want to "learn" how the B737 NG behaves, you'll have to go through the manuals, eventually. Just as an example, in the FCOM Volume two, there is a whole section on the automated systems, like the AFDS and the MCP functions, and one entire section, with pictures, on the FMC, where it tells you everything you can do with it, very clear and in depth. With all this info available, I believe you'll be set, just find the time and patience to learn, all the info you'll need is there, 

 

Enrico 

Hello Enrico,

 

But when I read the Mike Rays's book which make me easy to understand inside the system with more details and the PMDG manuals which make me confuse while I tried to read the manuals.

But I expect to buy Mike Rays's book first and in the next moment I will buy the PMDG 737 NG again to try to fly the aircraft. Is it any wrong with it ?

but I would like to ask you if default boeing 737 or any freeware boeing 737 can doing manual operation inside the system ?

 

if you talking  about  do the ngx or even the pmdg ng manuals  reflect on how  the basic fsx 737 flies and the systems, short answer is no.  You need  the payware versions either  the ifly 737  or  the pmdg ngx is probably the best of  the lot for systems  and failures simulation.

 

But I expect to buy Mike Rays's book first and in the next moment I will buy the PMDG 737 NG again to try to fly the aircraft. Is it any wrong with it ?

 

  Imo  others might disagree,  if you do buy Rays book  which I havnt  got by the way  so really cant comment on the details of  it, and than you get  the ngx   for example  you will get a far greater detail manual  on how  to fly  and everything  else you need to  use  on the 737 ngx

yeah. I know that (fcoms and qrf) which I cannot download from free. but the tutorial 1 and 2 which is you can download for free.

but I would like to ask you if default boeing 737 or any freeware boeing 737 can doing manual operation inside the system ?

Hello Enrico,

 

But when I read the Mike Rays's book which make me easy to understand inside the system with more details and the PMDG manuals which make me confuse while I tried to read the manuals.

But I expect to buy Mike Rays's book first and in the next moment I will buy the PMDG 737 NG again to try to fly the aircraft. Is it any wrong with it ?

Hi Owen, nothing wrong with that. Also, read the two tutorials made by PMDG, as they explain what to do and why on both flights, I believe between Mike Ray's book and the tutorials you'll be set to take off and enjoy the 737. I understand the Boeing manuals seem a little confusing, as they are not intended as tutorials, but after a few flights, if you go back to the Boeing manuals, I am sure everything will sound much clearer,

 

Enrico

 

if you talking  about  do the ngx or even the pmdg ng manuals  reflect on how  the basic fsx 737 flies and the systems, short answer is no.  You need  the payware versions either  the ifly 737  or  the pmdg ngx is probably the best of  the lot for systems  and failures simulation.

 

 

  Imo  others might disagree,  if you do buy Rays book  which I havnt  got by the way  so really cant comment on the details of  it, and than you get  the ngx   for example  you will get a far greater detail manual  on how  to fly  and everything  else you need to  use  on the 737 ngx

 I want to learn inside the system and test it by manual operation.therefore, my choice right now is used the default boeing 737 as training first before I buy the PMDG 737,  ,should have any problem with this?

 

it's ok about it. I was reading the sample of pages by rays book yesterday. it gives my feel is like start from zero on airline, if you know nothing on airlines. so I decide will going to rays first . after that just pmdg

 

Hi Owen, nothing wrong with that. Also, read the two tutorials made by PMDG, as they explain what to do and why on both flights, I believe between Mike Ray's book and the tutorials you'll be set to take off and enjoy the 737. I understand the Boeing manuals seem a little confusing, as they are not intended as tutorials, but after a few flights, if you go back to the Boeing manuals, I am sure everything will sound much clearer,

 

Enrico

Hi Enrico,

 

Ok, I think so too .Mike Ray's book really can help me out as I know nothing on airline. nope. it's very confusing if someone do not know airline system totally. Why you say they are not intended as tutorials?eventually, what actually they want to do ?if they are not intended as tutorials

The manuals given to pilots, which are the ones you get from PMDG, are more of  an overview, where every system and knob and light and phase of flight are considered. But you have to consider that that is the standard set forth by Boeing, but then every operator has their own procedures for different situations or phases of flight, and, the real "tutorial" is given by flying in the simulators of the company, next to other pilots or trainers, that is where what they read is put into action.

So, after you read Mike Ray's book, do a few flights to start familiarizing with the cockpit and the systems, and as you progress things will become clear. Whenever I take my NGX for a spin, I always have the manuals close, so I can referr to them, should something unexpected occur.

 

Enrico

The manuals given to pilots, which are the ones you get from PMDG, are more of an overview, where every system and knob and light and phase of flight are considered. But you have to consider that that is the standard set forth by Boeing, but then every operator has their own procedures for different situations or phases of flight, and, the real "tutorial" is given by flying in the simulators of the company, next to other pilots or trainers, that is where what they read is put into action.

So, after you read Mike Ray's book, do a few flights to start familiarizing with the cockpit and the systems, and as you progress things will become clear. Whenever I take my NGX for a spin, I always have the manuals close, so I can referr to them, should something unexpected occur.

 

Enrico

Oh, so what manuals are you using actually? PMDG tutorials? Yea, I will read the mike ray's book first in the meantime will also do a few flights until I know all the procedures then go for pmdg 737ng manuals is not late I think , I'm considering both are the same, only difference in pmdg is directly to the point and details, mike ray's book is to teach you every single step, am I wrong?

Hi Owen,

 

let's say with Mike Ray's manual you'll have an instructor telling you what buttons to push and what dials to turn, the PMDG manuals will tell you why and what it is the aircraft can do. As simple as that,

 

Enrico