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I think I've solved the mystery. I'll note it here, in case Gogglers of the future have the same problem, and they find this via a search. I uninstalled it again, went to my Microsoft account, and clicked on the purchase as normal, which took me to the Xbox app as normal. The "You own this" install button was there, as normal, I've got the premium deluxe version, which has 4 parts to it, and I noticed that all but the 4th part had "Gamepass" on the picture of the boxes located under the install button. I rooted around a bit, can't remember exactly how, but I found another install button, slightly different from the previous, and no mention of Gamepass. So I installed again, none of those screens shown above were displayed, and now it's running normally. It even remembered the last airport I used on my other version of the Sim. So I'm guessing I installed a Gamepass version of the Sim, I've never had a Gamepass, and would have thought it would be the same as the non gamepass version, but maybe not? It's the only thing I can think of that might have caused my issues.

Thanks - that makes sense - but I'm unable to run MSFS, it boots up fine - but won't let me add any controls - even with just a keyboard and mouse, when I enter the control setup, it's just a continuous white revolving circle, never gets past it. Every time I quit to desktop, after a long wait, MSFS just starts up again, and all those screens re-appear. I've tried killing it in task manager to get a safe mode start option, but that hasn't worked, boots up normally, and all those screens come back? Don't think there's much more to be done, it just doesn't want to run!

Ps - last link didn't work - but it's just the quit screen.

Thanks - I agree, the platform Xbox, and the device Xbox can lead to confusion - but on both installs it asked me if I wanted to install the Xbox version or PC. Ran it just now - it went through the whole install screens like it was the first time I ran it - so I was able to take screenshots of the process - screens I've never seen when installing it on other PC's. For brevity I'll just supply links to the screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/8vriVXf suggested graphics setting https://imgur.com/a/N6txlv6 data settings https://imgur.com/UauxVyc control settings https://imgur.com/j6A7gXq xbox button diagram https://imgur.com/7VPHE3c control options never ending white circle https://imgur.com/7kQZyvB graphics options https://imgur.com/euZrjnY9 quit flight simulator You'll notice only a mouse and keyboard is attached - but when I go to the controls options - I get a never ending white circle. Also when I quit to desktop, nothing happens for 5 minutes or so, then MSFS restarts, and all the screens shown above start again. It's got my "owned" aircraft in the market place - so it knows it's me. But it's impossible to attached any controls to it - which makes it useless - so will have to uninstall - might buy it with Steam - £60, but won't have the owned content of course.

Thanks,that's reassuring, that it can't be the xbox version, although it did ask me which version I wanted during the installation. I don't have an xbox controller attached, just keyboard, mouse and an old madcatz joystick which it did detect during the latter part of the installation, but when I go to conrols to set it up, I get a never ending spinning circle. Thought it was odd that it came up with a picture and description of how an xbox controller worked, even though there wasn't one connected, that's what made me think it was the xbox version. It certainly isn't like my previous installation, it came up with suggested settings for graphics and other things I've not seen before, but maybe the installation process has evolved. I'll experiment with other controls, and hope I can get past the spinning circle. Thanks for the information

I'm installing another copy of MSFS store version on a second PC. After the install, it was clear this was the Xbox version. Instructions on using an Xbox controller were shown, and the final set part was different from what I've seen before, I've installed MSFS twice before on PC's. I assumed I messed up the install, I do remember being asked if I was it for Xbox or PC, maybe I messed up there. So I uninstalled, and tried again, being careful to select the PC version when asked, but I've still got the Xbox version! Any ideas why I'm not getting the PC version? Thanks Eugene

First time I tried VR, I reached out to get hold of the throttle levers - scrapped my knuckles on the side of the desk, it seemed so real!😂

Thanks Guys - all good suggestions. I do have a Stream Deck, but almost all the time apart from setting up a flight, I'm in VR. But I suppose I could position it somewhere low down, so I could take the occasional "peek", by lifting the headset a tad. I should have mentioned that I'm in VR in the initial post - would MSI still work?

I recently saw a MSFS video that displayed FPS, CPU temp, and Memory usage on screen - can anyone tell me what the utility that does it is called? A Screen shot of what I saw: https://imgur.com/zAh62nY Thanks

You're right, you should be able to see 9KM in any direction - and agree, that's nowhere near 9km, but can't help you with why? Eugene

Some of them were, so I removed all the ones in the community folder, so should just be left with the ones that come with MSFS, but it hasn't made any difference?

None of my weather presets work. If I select a preset, for a nano second, I see briefly the preset loading, cloud and even some raindrops on the windscreen if appropriate, but then it clears and becomes some generic high level cloud and good visibility. Live weather works fine. Any Thoughts? Thanks Eugene

No METARS on SkyVector either.

In the settings part of MSFS, in the VR section. you can assign a control to take you in and out of VR, can't remember if it had a default, but I set mine to a joystick button, and go in an out of VR using that.

VR Sim guy has had one for 9 months, and produced a long term review of his motion sim here: It looks impressive, I love the way it really throws him around! It costs around £2000 which in hardware terms isn't expensive. He's done over a thousand hours in it, and gives it a glowing review. I'm planning to go down the motion sim/VR combo at some stage, they're an ideal match. Once you ditch the big screen, and the hardware, the sim footprint is actually very small, another advantage to those without a lot of space. I think this is the rig he uses: https://www.amazon.co.uk/DOF-Reality-Motion-Simulator-H2/dp/B07KRGRCQ8 Eugene