February 11, 201511 yr Jobin, full names in the PMDG forums please. The information in the post that you copied should get you started. Don't expect anybody to help you step by step, you should just jump in and start learning. The biggest problem is finding the airport information and I am no help in that part of the world. I could use Google earth to defing the location of the airport and runways but without charts or data files I have no idea how to define the navaids. I suspect that the reason Navigraph does not provide VAPO is because they do not receive the information from their data source, and the reason for that is because Prune is a military base with civilian operations limited to the civilian ramps and terminals. I'm just guessing based on a quick browse of the Wikipedia article on the location. Dan Downs KCRP
August 5, 20169 yr OK Ryan. Sorry for stirring up the old thread on this. It happened by reflex while I was doing what a good poster should do, by looking for answers in threads that already exist. I forgot about this thread. I'm old, butt I'm forgetful. I've been trying for a few days to add a few "Antarctica X" airports to the navdata and I've not been 100% successful as yet. With respect to earlier replies, I've not made changes to the ARPT_RWY.dat file and I'm working with just the airports.dat, and wpnavapt.txt files. I've used the VHHX manual installation guide(for PMDG FMC) to get me in the ballpark, but I'm obviously overlooking something. Can't get the FMC to accept my NZPGNZCH saved (FS Commander) flight plan when entered in the "co route" block; and the NZPG runways don't appear on the DEParture page. The lines below illustrate what I've done so far. I used ADE160 to open the NZPG scenery (bgl) file to obtain runway specs and then ran the T7 in FSX and let new lines be created in the ARPT_RWY.dat. I then changed data the McMurdo NZPG lines below as necessary to match what appeared in the ARPT_RWY.dat file. wpnavapt.txt NZPG lines : MCMURDO STATION PEG NZPG08 10000309-77.957161 166.551514000.0030900000 MCMURDO STATION PEG NZPG15 11024016-77.952072 166.489395000.0001600000 MCMURDO STATION PEG NZPG26 10000129-77.958916 166.682709000.0012900000 MCMURDO STATION PEG NZPG33 11024196-77.980484 166.538956000.0019600000 ROTHERA EGAR18 02875180-67.563833 -68.123333000.0018000013 ROTHERA EGAR36 02875000-67.571167 -68.130833000.0000000013 WILKINS YWKS09 10499094-66.689686 111.487472000.0009402353 WILKINS YWKS27 10499274-66.691970 111.559683000.0027402519 The airport.dat line for NZPG follows > NZPG-77.955197 166.522621 EGAR-67.570500 -68.129333 YWKS-66.690833 111.525000 Regards, Ken Hello everybody, i have inserted thoose lines in a rispective navdata folder,planning a fly to NZPG. a step forward is done,before FMC(using 777 PMDG for FSX)was sayng not in data base,now is accepting the ICAO,but but still keep says "none" about rwy for ARR/DEP. Any others suggestions? Thank you! Fabio
August 5, 20169 yr The 777 also has a arpt_rwy.dat file in the navdata folder, acts as cache to reduce memory load. Erase the file, the 777 will build a new one and should include your add-ons to the navdata. Dan Downs KCRP
August 6, 20169 yr Hello everybody,i have inserted thoose lines in a rispective navdata folder,planning a fly to NZPG.a step forward is done,before FMC(using 777 PMDG for FSX)was sayng not in data base,now is accepting the ICAO,but but still keep says "none" about rwy for ARR/DEP.Any others suggestions?Thank you!Fabio Hi, Fabio, I just tried it and it's working for me. So, a couple of things: 1) Don't try to edit ARPT_RWY.dat. It's a cache as Dan said. However you might try deleting it and letting it rebuild after you've made the NZPG entries and saved the files. It will rebuild the next time you load the 777. That might be the source of your problem. If that doesn't work: 2) You only need to enter the following lines in WPNavApt.txt; the ones coming after are there only to illustrate the proper placement of the NZPG lines. As it turns out, they go at the very beginning of the file after the header stuff -- first entry -- because MCMurdo is further south than any other airport. MCMURDO STATION PEG NZPG08 10000309-77.957161 166.551514000.0030900000MCMURDO STATION PEG NZPG15 11024016-77.952072 166.489395000.0001600000MCMURDO STATION PEG NZPG26 10000129-77.958916 166.682709000.0012900000MCMURDO STATION PEG NZPG33 11024196-77.980484 166.538956000.0019600000 3) Same for Airports.dat: NZPG-77.955197 166.522621 Again, at the head of the file after header, the very first entry. When you're done, the entries should look the same as the ones you copied from Ken. If this doesn't work, please post your entries for the two files. Hope this helps! Mike PS: PMDG wants you to use your full name in its forums.
August 6, 20169 yr Hello Mike. thank you for the help! I never tryed to edit the ARPT.RWY.DAT.(so nevere touch it) I follewed your tips i did reinsert : 1)Airports.dat: NZPG-77.955197 166.522621 2)WPNavApt.txt MCMURDO STATION PEG NZPG08 10000309-77.957161 166.551514000.0030900000MCMURDO STATION PEG NZPG15 11024016-77.952072 166.489395000.0001600000MCMURDO STATION PEG NZPG26 10000129-77.958916 166.682709000.0012900000MCMURDO STATION PEG NZPG33 11024196-77.980484 166.538956000.0019600000 Still NZPG in database on FMC, but still no rwys....... Waiting for good news Regards Fabio I have forgot as Dan says i went to ARPT_RWY.dat it rebuild and write this: AP;NZPG;;77.955197;166.522621;0 but there are no rwys as are in other airport,is it normal? Fabio
August 6, 20169 yr Begening of airport.dat: ;Worldwide Navigation Database;Exported via DFD v1.0 16.0719;Software copyright © 2016 Richard Stefan, NAVData-Service;Support available via forum at http://forum.navigraph.com;;Data provided by Navigraph - www.navigraph.com;Source data copyright © 2016 Jeppesen;This data may be used for ground based recreational computer game;simulation software only, and may not be recompiled, interpreted,;or distributed for any purpose without the written consent of Navigraph.;The contents of this database is dated and must not be used for real;world navigation as it is unlawful and unsafe to do so.;;------------------------------------------------------;AIRAC Cycle : 1608 (21/JUL/2016 - 17/AUG/2016) - Ver.1;------------------------------------------------------NZPG-77.955197 -166.522621EGAR-67.570500 -68.129333YWKS-66.691111 111.526667SAWB-64.216667 -56.633333SCRM-62.190833 -58.986667SCGZ-54.931111 -67.626111SAWH-54.843333 -68.295556SCFN-53.800000 -69.270556SAWE-53.777500 -67.750000SCDW-53.601944 -70.477222SCFM-53.253611 -70.319167SCCI-53.003611 -70.853611SCSB-52.736667 -69.333611EGYP-51.821789 -58.456111SFAL-51.685900 -57.777406SCNT-51.670833 -72.528611SAWT-51.609167 -72.221667SAWG-51.608889 -69.312778SCGD-50.970000 -72.419444SAWC-50.280278 -72.053333SAWU-50.017778 -68.580278SAWJ-49.306667 -67.802778as well wpnavapt.txt ;Worldwide Navigation Database;Exported via DFD v1.0 16.0719;Software copyright © 2016 Richard Stefan, NAVData-Service;Support available via forum at http://forum.navigraph.com;;Data provided by Navigraph - www.navigraph.com;Source data copyright © 2016 Jeppesen;This data may be used for ground based recreational computer game;simulation software only, and may not be recompiled, interpreted,;or distributed for any purpose without the written consent of Navigraph.;The contents of this database is dated and must not be used for real;world navigation as it is unlawful and unsafe to do so.;;------------------------------------------------------;AIRAC Cycle : 1608 (21/JUL/2016 - 17/AUG/2016) - Ver.1;------------------------------------------------------MCMURDO STATION PEG NZPG08 10000309-77.957161 166.551514000.0030900000MCMURDO STATION PEG NZPG15 11024016-77.952072 166.489395000.0001600000MCMURDO STATION PEG NZPG26 10000129-77.958916 166.682709000.0012900000MCMURDO STATION PEG NZPG33 11024196-77.980484 166.538956000.0019600000ROTHERA EGAR18 02875180-67.563833 -68.123333000.0018000013ROTHERA EGAR36 02875000-67.571167 -68.130833000.0000000013WILKINS YWKS09 10499094-66.689686 111.487472000.0009402549WILKINS YWKS27 10499274-66.691969 111.559683000.0027402549BASE MARAMBIO SAWB06 04134060-64.242222 -56.641111000.0006000760BASE MARAMBIO SAWB24 04134240-64.236667 -56.618611000.0024000760TTE. RODOLFO MARSH MARTISCRM11 04239106-62.187794 -58.997231000.0010600147TTE. RODOLFO MARSH MARTISCRM29 04239286-62.193869 -58.976097000.0028600147GUARDIAMARINA ZANARTU SCGZ08 04724078-54.930747 -67.637325000.0007800088GUARDIAMARINA ZANARTU SCGZ26 04724258-54.931472 -67.614894000.0025800088MALVINAS ARGENTINAS SAWH07 09186072-54.844050 -68.314650000.0007200102MALVINAS ARGENTINAS SAWH25 09186252-54.842575 -68.276472111.3025200102RUSSFIN SCFN09 04105090-53.800000 -69.270556000.0009000600RUSSFIN SCFN27 04105270-53.800000 -69.270556000.0027000600RIO GRANDE SAWE07 06562075-53.777997 -67.764669000.0007500065RIO GRANDE SAWE25 06562255-53.777203 -67.734369109.5025500065ALMIRANTE SCHROEDERS SCDW04 03937040-53.604950 -70.484764000.0004000160ALMIRANTE SCHROEDERS SCDW12 04905120-53.597088 -70.485092000.0012000160ALMIRANTE SCHROEDERS SCDW22 03937220-53.598907 -70.469673000.0022000160ALMIRANTE SCHROEDERS SCDW30 04905300-53.606770 -70.469345000.0030000160CAPITAN FUENTES MARTINEZSCFM03 03150030-53.251785 -70.332458000.0003000104CAPITAN FUENTES MARTINEZSCFM09 08202096-53.249867 -70.336908000.0009600104CAPITAN FUENTES MARTINEZSCFM21 03150210-53.246628 -70.324127000.0021000104CAPITAN FUENTES MARTINEZSCFM27 08202276-53.257569 -70.301619000.0027600104CARLOS IBANEZ DEL CAMPO SCCI01 05502015-53.008008 -70.854997000.0001500139CARLOS IBANEZ DEL CAMPO SCCI07 09153075-53.001153 -70.875386000.0007500139CARLOS IBANEZ DEL CAMPO SCCI12 07874125-52.997547 -70.868700000.0012500139CARLOS IBANEZ DEL CAMPO SCCI19 05502195-52.994792 -70.842981000.0019500139CARLOS IBANEZ DEL CAMPO SCCI25 09153255-53.000619 -70.833792109.9025500139CARLOS IBANEZ DEL CAMPO SCCI30 07874305-53.013786 -70.845169000.0030500139FRANCO BIANCO SCSB01 03937014-52.736906 -69.344581000.0001400106FRANCO BIANCO SCSB07 04921074-52.737486 -69.344631000.0007400106 Fabio
August 6, 20169 yr Hard to tell from the post because it has proportional character spacing, but in the wpnavapt.txt file the character position is important. I've posted a decode file in the AVSIM forum several years ago but here you go for convenience: wpnavapt.txt AIRPORT DEFINITION FILE ....|....1....|....2....|....3....|....4....|....5....|....6....|....7.... ORLANDO INTL KMCO17L09000184 28.443697 -81.282581110.9518400090 ORLANDO INTL KMCO17R10000184 28.435611 -81.295881111.7518400090 ORLANDO INTL KMCO18L12005184 28.448333 -81.322306000.0018400093 ORLANDO INTL KMCO18R12004184 28.448295 -81.326975111.9018400093 LOS ANGELES INTERNATIONAKLAX24L10285249 33.950189-118.401664111.7025000111 LOS ANGELES INTERNATIONAKLAX24R08925249 33.952100-118.401945108.5024900117 LOS ANGELES INTERNATIONAKLAX25L11095249 33.937359-118.382708109.9024900098 LOS ANGELES INTERNATIONAKLAX25R12091249 33.939553-118.382906111.1025000094 FRANKFURT EDDF25C13123248 50.045128 8.586981111.5524800364 FRANKFURT EDDF25L13123248 50.040053 8.586531111.1524800362 FRANKFURT EDDF25R09186248 50.045825 8.533717111.3524800353 1-24 Airport Name 25-28 Airport ICAO 29-31 Runway Designation (Two digits use leading zero if 1-9) Runway Designation column 31 = L C R or space only. 32-36 Runway Length (feet) 37-39 Runway Heading (magnetic, Three digits use leading zeros if 0-99) 40-49 Latitude signed decimal degrees (+N –S) 50-60 Longitude signed decimal degrees (+E –W) Note Lat/Lon fields are right justified 61-66 Localizer/ILS/LDA frequency (MHz) 67-69 Localizer/ILS/LDA Course (Three digits) 70-74 Runway Altitude (ft msl) Dan Downs KCRP
August 6, 20169 yr but there are no rwys as are in other airport,is it normal? Hi, Fabio, To follow up on Dan's point, I think if you have any tabs instead of spaces that may mess things up. Make sure all of your entries line up exactly with the next entry below. "NZPG" in all the runway entries should be spaced (not tabbed) so that it lines up exactly with EGAR and all the later airports and runways listed. BTW I just checked ARPT_RWY.dat and it did pick up NZPG even though I hadn't deleted it and allowed it to rebuild. It even shows the discrepancy between the added data and the missing runway (8/26) in the FSX stock scenery. Just a quick question: Where are you looking for the runways? I see them on the CDU approach page on the right. Of course there are no STARs as there is no separate STAR file in FSX/PMDG/SIDSTARS. Mike
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