FSX-SE Quick FSEconomy question

[Bjoern 1,169]

Are there (still) any FSEconomy users here?

 

 

I've got a quick question:

What's the biggest airplane available in FSE?

 

There's no official list on their page and the biggest aircraft that was mentioned in all FSE discussions that I've skimmed through was the (default) DC-3.

 

So any chance to fly something as big as a, say, J41, Fokker 27, ATR42 or Metroliner in it?

 

I understand that FSE isn't geared towards airline-like flying, but still...would be nice to know before I jump in.

[keithb77 311]

I fly FSE almost exclusively.

You can hire and own C-130s, Electra's, Viscounts, BAE-146s and the like, and also fly jets from B737 up to DC-8/40 on 'all-in' jobs where you effectively hire on as a contract pilot.

All of the planes you mention are supported and very useful in FSE.

Almost everything is possible...

I'll post a list

Cheers

Keith

Aermacchi - Lockheed AL-60 Aero Design AC500C Aero Design AC680S Aero Design AC690 Aero Vodochody L-39 Aeronca Champion Agusta A109 Airbus A320* Airbus A321* Aircreation 582SL Airspeed AS-57 Ambassador * Alenia C-27J Spartan* Alenia C-27J Spartan (IRIS)* American Champion Scout Antonov An-14 Antonov AN-2 Antonov An-24* Antonov An-26 Curl* Antonov An-28 Antonov An-32* ATR 72-500* Auster J/1 Autocrat Australia GAF N22 Nomad Aviat A-1 Husky Avro Anson MK-1* BAC Jet Provost T5 BAe 146-100 (Avro RJ70)* BAe Jetstream 32* BAe Jetstream 41* Basler BT-67* Beagle B 206 Basset Beech Debonair Beech Queen Air 80S Beech T-34 Mentor Beechcraft 17 Beechcraft 18 Beechcraft 1900C Beechcraft 1900C Freighter Beechcraft 1900D Beechcraft Baron 58 Beechcraft Baron 58 - tip tanks (Dreamfleet) Beechcraft Bonanza A36 Beechcraft Bonanza F33 Beechcraft Bonanza V35 Beechcraft Duchess 76* Beechcraft Duke B60 Beechcraft King Air 200 Beechcraft King Air 300 Beechcraft King Air 350 Beechcraft King Air C90 Beechcraft Queen Air Beechcraft Royal Turbine Duke B60 Beechcraft Twin Bonanza 50 Bell 205A-1/UH-1C Bell 206B Bell 206L RTW N3911Z Bell 212 Bell 407 Bell 412 Bell 430 Bell 430 RTW N430Q Bell 47G-2 Bell UH-1H Huey Bellanca 260 Beriev BE-103 Boeing 221A Monomail Boeing 247D Boeing 377* Boeing 727-100/200* Boeing 737-800* Boeing B-17G* Boeing Stearman Boeing Vertol CH-47 Chinook* Bombardier Challenger 300* Bombardier CL-415* Bombardier CRJ-200ER* Bombardier CRJ700-ER* Bombardier Dash-8 Q400* Bombardier Lear 60* Bristol Britannia 300* Britten Norman BN-2A Mk3-3 Trislander Britten-Norman BN-2B Islander Bucker Jungmann 131 CASA CN235* Cessna 152 Aerobat Cessna 162 Skycatcher Cessna 172 Skyhawk Cessna 177 Cardinal Cessna 177RG Cardinal Cessna 182 Skylane Cessna 185 Skywagon Cessna 195 Cessna 206 Stationair Cessna 207 Stationair 8 Cessna 208 Caravan Cessna 210 Centurion Cessna 310 Cessna 337 Skymaster Cessna 340A Cessna 404 Titan Cessna 414A Chancellor Cessna 421 Golden Eagle Cessna 441 Conquest II Cessna Citation CJ1 Cessna Citation II Cessna Citation X* Cessna L-19/O-1 Birddog Cessna Mustang Cessna T-50 Bobcat Cirrus SR20 Cirrus SR22 G2 Columbia 400 Commander 112 Commander 115 Consolidated PBY5 Catalina* Convair 340/440* Convair 580* Curtis C46* Curtiss Robertson Robin J-1 Dassault Falcon 7X* DeHavilland Dash 7* DeHavilland Dash 8 100/200* DeHavilland Dash 8 Q300* DeHavilland DH 89 Dragon Rapide DeHavilland DH-82 Tiger Moth DeHavilland DH104 Dove DeHavilland DH114 Heron* DeHavilland DH80A Puss Moth DeHavilland DHC-1 Chipmunk DeHavilland DHC-2 Beaver DeHavilland DHC-2 Turbo Beaver DeHavilland DHC-3 Otter DeHavilland DHC-3-T Turbo Otter DeHavilland DHC-4 Caribou* DeHavilland DHC-5 Buffalo* DeHavilland DHC-6 300 Twin Otter (Aerosoft Extended) DeHavilland DHC-6 Twin Otter Diamond DA-42 Twin Star Diamond DA20 Katana Diamond DA40D DiamondStar Dornier 228 Dornier Do-27 A4 Dornier Do-27 B1 Douglas A-26* Douglas C117D* Douglas DC-2* Douglas DC-2 (FSX)* Douglas DC-3* Douglas DC-4* Douglas DC-6* Douglas DC-6B* Douglas DC-7B* Douglas DC-7C* Douglas DC-8 (10-40)* Eclipse 500 Embraer 110 Embraer 120* Embraer ERJ-135LR* Embraer ERJ-145LR* Embraer Legacy 600* Embraer Phenom 100* ERCO Ercoupe 415-C Eurocopter AS-350 Ecureuil Eurocopter BK117 Eurocopter Colibri EC 120 Eurocopter EC-135 Fairchild 24R Fairchild C119* Fairchild C123* Fairchild Metro III Fairchild PT19/26 Cornell Fokker F27-500 Friendship* Ford Tri-Motor Found Bush Hawk Gippsland GA8 Airvan Globe Swift Grumman G-44 Widgeon Grumman G21 Goose Grumman HU-16B Albatross* Grumman S2/C1* Grumman Tiger Grumman Turbo Goose Hawker Siddeley HS-748* Helio Super Courier H-295/U-10b Howard DGA-15 Howard Aero 500* Hughes/McDonnell Douglas MD500E Ilyushin Il-14* Ilyushin Il-18D* Junkers Ju-52* Junkers W33 EW Flight Junkers W33/34 Kazan Helicopter Plant Mi-17-1V-GA* Lake Renegade Lancair Legacy Lancair Legacy IV-P Lear 45 LearJet LJ25D Let L 410 UVP-E Let L 410 UVP-T Liberty XL2 Lockheed C-130 (Capt Sim)* Lockheed C-130 (Generic)* Lockheed Constellation* Lockheed L10A Electra Lockheed L10E Amelia Special Lockheed P-3C (L-188)* Lockheed Vega Luscombe 8A Martin 404* Maule M-7 Messerschmitt Bf 108 B Meyers 200D Mitsubishi MU-2B Mooney M20 Bravo Mooney M20 Juliet Morane-Saulnier MS-760 New Standard D25A Noorduyn Norseman North American B-25* North American P-51D Mustang North American T-28 Trojan North American T-39 Sabreliner* North American T-6G Texan Pacific Aerospace 750XL Piaggio 166 Albatross Piaggio 180 Avanti Piaggio P-149D Pilatus PC-12 Pilatus PC-6 Porter Piper J-3 Cub Piper PA-12 Super Cruiser RTW Piper PA-18 Super Cub Piper PA-20 Pacer Piper PA-22 Super Pacer Piper PA-22 Tri-Pacer Piper PA-23 Apache Piper PA-23 Aztec Piper PA-24 Comanche Piper PA-28 Archer Piper PA-28 Arrow Piper PA-28 Cherokee 180 Piper PA-28 Dakota Piper PA-28 Warrior Piper PA-30 Twin Comanche Piper PA-31 Navajo Piper PA-31T Cheyenne II Piper PA-31T1 Cheyenne I/IA Piper PA-31T2 Cheyenne IIXL Piper PA-32 Cherokee Six/ Saratoga Piper PA-32 Saratoga TC Piper PA-34 Seneca Piper PA-38 Tomahawk Piper PA-42-1000 Cheyenne 400 Piper PA-44 Seminole Piper PA-46 Meridian Piper PA-60 Aerostar PZL Wilga Quest Kodiak Rans S-7 Courier Raytheon Beechjet / Hawker Raytheon Premier1 Republic Seabee Robin DR400 Robin/Apex DR221 Robinson R22 Robinson R44 Rockwell Commander 114 Ryan L-17 Navion Saab 340B* SAAB Scandia 90* Shorts SD3-60* Shorts Skyvan SIAI-Marchetti SF260 SIAI-Marchetti SM.1019A Sikorsky S-43* Sikorsky S-55 Sikorsky S-76 Socata TB-10 Tobago Socata TB21GT Trinidad Socata TBM 700 Socata TBM 850 Spartan 7W Executive Stinson 108 Stinson L-5B Sentinel Stinson Reliant Supermarine Walrus MK 1 Tecnam P92 Echo Tupolev Tu-124* Van's RV-7/7A Vickers Viscount* Waco Classic YMF Westland Seaking* Yakovlev Yak-12A Yakovlev Yak-18T Yakovlev Yak-40* Zenair CH 801 Zepplin NT Zlin Z-43

 

Currently supported aircraft

Cheers

Keith

[Bjoern 1,169]

Thank you very much, Keith!

 

So I guess airline-like operations are possible. Is the mission generation tailored to the airplane so that I, say, won't have to take 5 passengers in a 737-200 from LAX to InTheMiddleOfNowhere Municipal?

[keithb77 311]

Yes, the "all-in" jobs for airliners have a reasonable number of PAX and go to an appropriate airport at a reasonable distance.

The pay for all-in jobs is low though - it's possible to make a lot more by flying multiple passenger and freight jobs in a big plane (like an Electra).

On the other hands it's difficult to fill a big plane and it's easy to lose money flying one half empty, the pay for an all-in is guaranteed so long as you get there.

 

Give it a go, you'll soon pick it up.

Cheers

Keith 

[Bjoern 1,169]

Yes, the "all-in" jobs for airliners have a reasonable number of PAX and go to an appropriate airport at a reasonable distance.

The pay for all-in jobs is low though - it's possible to make a lot more by flying multiple passenger and freight jobs in a big plane (like an Electra).

On the other hands it's difficult to fill a big plane and it's easy to lose money flying one half empty, the pay for an all-in is guaranteed so long as you get there.

 

Give it a go, you'll soon pick it up.

Cheers

Keith 

 

It's inevitable to pick up FSE as FSPax doesn't run FSXSE and I don't really want to invest the $$ for a new tool.

[keithb77 311]

Some people have got FSEconomy to work with FS-SE, others have had problems getting the right Simconnect version...but it does work.

Very different to FSPassengers though

Cheers

Keith

[l3ubba 16]

The aircraft you listed are plenty reasonable to fly in FSE. As Keith said, you can fly B738 and A321s but they are all in jobs and you are basically a contract pilot. It is not possible for you to own the aircraft of fly assignments of your choice on them. The assignments for those aircraft are predetermined and personally I don't enjoy flying them, but some do. Personally I own a Beechcraft Bonanza A36 and a Beechcraft KA 350 and enjoy flying them all over the US. My B350 is especially good at making money, it can carry a decent number of passengers or cargo and has a good range.

[Bjoern 1,169]

Well, as long as I can freely choose the livery I can fly with (FSPax is very restrictive in that regard) and as long as the pax aren't as wussy, I won't mind if I'm "just" a contract pilot.

And I hope that there won't be an annoying FA in FSE. No, darling, I'm not married and if you're bored, go count plates in the galley! *Groan*

 

 

 

Still waiting for my game world account, but that's to be expected due to the holidays.

[l3ubba 16]

Well, as long as I can freely choose the livery I can fly with (FSPax is very restrictive in that regard) and as long as the pax aren't as wussy, I won't mind if I'm "just" a contract pilot.

And I hope that there won't be an annoying FA in FSE. No, darling, I'm not married and if you're bored, go count plates in the galley! *Groan*

 

 

 

Still waiting for my game world account, but that's to be expected due to the holidays.

 

You can fly any livery you want and the FSE program doesn't have a FA and the passengers don't care if you slam your aircraft into the ground on landing, they just want to get to their destination . FSE is a lot of fun, especially when you save up enough to buy your first aircraft.

[Bjoern 1,169]

Got my account now, yay!

[l3ubba 16]

Congrats, enjoy! And if you are looking for some flying around SoCal there is a VERY fine Beechcraft Bonanza A36 sitting at KBUR for rent 

[Bjoern 1,169]

Well, I do have a P35 installed, but I want to give the Caravan or so a try first.

[l3ubba 16]

C208s are always good aircraft for FSE. They are pretty cheap to rent, can be found all over the place, and can carry a good amount of passengers/cargo. I have done lots of assignments in C208s on FSE, good little aircraft.

[Bjoern 1,169]

Did my first assignment last night, short 50 mile hop. Got me a profit of some $3500 or so. Thought I was king of the world until I checked the purchase prices for some, umm...proper sized planes. YIKES!

[WfordJr 1]

 

 

hought I was king of the world until I checked the purchase prices for some, umm...proper sized planes. YIKES!

 

There is really not much advantage to purchasing.