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I would like tor restore my FSX from a previous backup because I am unhappy with aspects of this product. Attempting to uninstall contrails from the NGX resulted in having both default and PrecipitFX contrails shown simultaneously. Since it is not in the documentation, I would like to know what on my system was changed by this program. 

Ethan Edelson

  • Commercial Member

I would like tor restore my FSX from a previous backup because I am unhappy with aspects of this product. Attempting to uninstall contrails from the NGX resulted in having both default and PrecipitFX contrails shown simultaneously. Since it is not in the documentation, I would like to know what on my system was changed by this program. 

 

Hi Ethan,

 

Our product replaces the fx_contrail.fx and fx_contrail_l.fx files in the /Effects folder. The PrecipitFX installer did a backup of the previous contrails in the same directory. they are named with the extension ​.fsfx_PFX.bkp. Uninstalling PrecipitFX from the Install Utility should restore previously installed contrails and other effects.

 

Let me know if that fixed your problem.

Keven Menard 
Technical Director, //42
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  • Author

Hi Ethan,

 

Our product replaces the fx_contrail.fx and fx_contrail_l.fx files in the /Effects folder. The PrecipitFX installer did a backup of the previous contrails in the same directory. they are named with the extension ​.fsfx_PFX.bkp. Uninstalling PrecipitFX from the Install Utility should restore previously installed contrails and other effects.

 

Let me know if that fixed your problem.

 

So, just to be clear, there are no changes to aircraft configs, shaders, or effect config files? 

 

And what is the correct way to uninstall one aspect of the package without the rest? I would like to experiment with contrails being off and the other effects on, so I unchecked contrails. Is this the wrong way to do it? Should I have selected uninstall instead?

Ethan Edelson

  • Commercial Member

So, just to be clear, there are no changes to aircraft configs, shaders, or effect config files? 

 

And what is the correct way to uninstall one aspect of the package without the rest? I would like to experiment with contrails being off and the other effects on, so I unchecked contrails. Is this the wrong way to do it? Should I have selected uninstall instead?

 

Contrails in PrecipitFX do not require cfg manipulation like other effects in the package.

Simply uncheck the effect in the Install Utility and press Modify. This will restore previous contrails.

Keven Menard 
Technical Director, //42
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  • Author
Contrails in PrecipitFX do not require cfg manipulation like other effects in the package.
Simply uncheck the effect in the Install Utility and press Modify. This will restore previous contrails.

So there are other PrecipitFX effects that DO manipulate default CFGs?

 

I did "simply uncheck" the contrails.... that's how I ended up with two sets of contrails.

 

This has me worried because it doesn't seem your installer/uninstaller always works as intended. I believe I have every right to know all the effected default files so I can restore backups I made myself before installing the PrecipitFX program. 

Ethan Edelson

  • Commercial Member

So there are other PrecipitFX effects that DO manipulate default CFGs?

 

I did "simply uncheck" the contrails.... that's how I ended up with two sets of contrails.

 

This has me worried because it doesn't seem your installer/uninstaller always works as intended. I believe I have every right to know all the effected default files so I can restore backups I made myself before installing the PrecipitFX program. 

 

Can you past here the [EFFECT] section of your aircraft.cfg? We'll have a deeper look at what lines are modified.

Keven Menard 
Technical Director, //42
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  • Author

I will do that soon but please have a look at what I see after completely uninstalling your effects with the included uninstaller... a mix of two contrail types:

 

2015_2_3_17_36_11_453.jpg

The PrceipitFX are still there.... I am quite frustrated right now, and have lost all faith in your product's functionality to restore the FSX installation that I had previous to using it. 

Ethan Edelson

  • Commercial Member

I will do that soon but please have a look at what I see after completely uninstalling your effects with the included uninstaller... a mix of two contrail types:

 

2015_2_3_17_36_11_453.jpg

The PrceipitFX are still there.... I am quite frustrated right now, and have lost all faith in your product's functionality to restore the FSX installation that I had previous to using it. 

 

Well, that looks like the default contrails to me...

 

The only way for me to confirm this is by having a look at the Effects section on your CFG file.

Keven Menard 
Technical Director, //42
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  • Author

Default contrails don't have volume or thickness, these do. Regardless, the effects section is below:

 

[EFFECTS]

wake=fx_wake
water=fx_spray
dirt=fx_tchdrt
concrete=fx_sparks
touchdown=fx_tchdwn, 1
vaportrail_l=fx_dummy
vaportrail_r=fx_dummy
 
The cfg is still the same, so perhaps your backups didn't capture the default contrails FX/texture correctly. I am doing a full restore now of the entire effects folder and effected plane's config files. I hope I won't discover other problems your software created other places in my sim. 

Ethan Edelson

  • Commercial Member

 

Default contrails don't have volume or thickness, these do. Regardless, the effects section is below:

 

[EFFECTS]

wake=fx_wake

water=fx_spray

dirt=fx_tchdrt

concrete=fx_sparks

touchdown=fx_tchdwn, 1

vaportrail_l=fx_dummy

vaportrail_r=fx_dummy

 

The cfg is still the same, so perhaps your backups didn't capture the default contrails FX/texture correctly. I am doing a full restore now of the entire effects folder and effected plane's config files. I hope I won't discover other problems your software created other places in my sim.

Cool,

Let me know!

Keven Menard 
Technical Director, //42
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I will do that soon but please have a look at what I see after completely uninstalling your effects with the included uninstaller... a mix of two contrail types:

 

2015_2_3_17_36_11_453.jpg

The PrceipitFX are still there.... I am quite frustrated right now, and have lost all faith in your product's functionality to restore the FSX installation that I had previous to using it.

That's to me is default contrails and your cfg is fine.

Michaël Villeneuve-Normand 
Co-Founder and Developer, OldProp.

  • Author

That's to me is default contrails and your cfg is fine.

 

I don't think the default contrails create particle sprites, but if I am wrong and they do, my apologies. 

Ethan Edelson

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