FS9 VC runway touchdown zone

[Brockyd 0]

Hi All, 

 

This is my first post, so i am hoping someone can help me. I've noticed in FS9, the zoom in VC is set default .50 Zoom. Now i like this zoom distance, however i have notice the details of the touchdown zone on runways don't appear until you are approx 1 to .5 Miles out. Its really annoying because it just looks like a blank runway until you are really close, and can't use them for reference. 

 

If i change the zoom to 1, it appears much further out, which is perfect, however i can't see all my gauges due to the added zoom. 

 

Has anyone else noticed this, or better yet, has anyone been able to resolve the issue?

 

FYI, i have a very high powered PC with all full settings running AA and all with 50 FPS... Additionally, i have tweaked my CFG with all the recommendations online.

 

Thanks in advance. 

 

Brocky D

[Appliance 51]

has anyone been able to resolve the issue?

 

Perhaps you could investigate Active Camera or WalkandFollow, together with TrackIR.

[Brockyd 0]

Thanks for the reply Appliance...

 

I have tried Active Camera, and Walk and Follow to no avail. Not ready to invest in TrackIR just yet. 

 

I am attaching 2 images to show the difference. Both taken from the same distance from the runway, with first being .50 Zoom, the second at 1 Zoom. 

 

 

 

 

I understand how active camera and walk & follow works, however neither change the distance drawing of the runway detail... 

 

Its the touchdown zone which is not showing in .50 Zoom, but is in 1 Zoom. Open the images fully to see what i mean.

 

I have searched every forum and google for answers, with no results.

 

Any further help is much appreciated....Thanks so much guys. 

 

Brocky D

[Appliance 51]

The recommended programs were suggested as a means to solve your problem of reading gauges.

 

Both programs enable you to position your preferred point-of-view and save it either to keyboard, macro keys or joystick/yoke/throttle for easy, instantaneous viewing on demand.

 

Your images are not being displayed at time of my composition.  

 

If touchdown zone is not being displayed you could always resort to the 'W' key or seat adjust combination keys 'Shift/Return' and 'Shift/Backspace.'

[Brockyd 0]

Once again...Thanks for your assistance Appliance. 

 

I understand what you mean regarding the point of view, and also the Shift/return functions. I use them all the time... 

 

I think the images will explain it better... For some reason they are not displaying for you, so i have put them in a Gdrive from easy viewing. 

 

https://drive.google.com/a/wikimalahini.com/folderview?id=0B2EaH_NvDdmDZDRFMkdvTDdCN2c&usp=sharing

 

I think they will explain my problem better.... Its really a matter of the details on the runway viewed in distance, and or, the zoom. 

 

As mentioned above, i fly in VC at .5 Zoom which is standard i think for everyone... But as you will see in the images the zones are not displayed... Unless i zoom to 1. 

 

Thank you very much again....I really appreciate your help. 

Brocky D

[Appliance 51]

As they say "A picture is worth a thousand words."   B)

 

Access requested.  

[Brockyd 0]

Haha... Sorry i had it on Share... Its public now... Please try again.. 

 

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2EaH_NvDdmDZDRFMkdvTDdCN2c&usp=sharing

[Brockyd 0]

Hey Jon_aus,

 

No offence, but i'm fairly sure FS9 VC default is .50 zoom... If yours is different, i will be confused.. I have never changed any defaults... The 2D is 1.00 Zoom for sure no doubt. 

 

Still thank you for your reply, and i appreciate all help..

 

BD

[Appliance 51]

Brocky D I had a look at your screenies.

 

Although you prefer to fly the Cessna 172 at 0.5 zoom I can assure you that is sitting in the back seat.  True perspective is 1.00 which can be adjusted in the View Options menu.  One sits REALLY close in a Cessna and that is why many prefer to fly with TrackIR in order to get away from the cramped feeling.

 

All I can suggest otherwise is on approach you zoom in using the '+' key and out again with the '-' key.  Tapping the keys gives you a stepped effect while pressing and holding gives a smooth, incremental effect.

 

Sorry I can't be more help.  Perhaps someone else can chime in with a proper solution for you.

[iwebber 207]

I prefer 0.50 myself but will adjust the eyepoint in the cfg and slide myself forward slightly to not be so far away from the instruments.

 

And do you have the same problem with the touchdown zone markings coming into view late on in the approach?

 

I have the same problem as the OP (worse, as my zoom is usuall 0.31 - 3 screen setup).

 

Does anyone know of any way to solve it (while keeping the zoom the same)?

 

Cheers,

 

Ian

[vololiberista 205]

Your zoom factor for a widescreen mointor should be .85 for 16:9 or .81 for 15:9

Your eyepoint seems ok.

[Brockyd 0]

Hi All, 

 

Thank you again for your persistence. 

 

Appliance, thanks for your advise. I am only using the default cessna as an example. All others are the same as well. Changing the zoom, or scrolling the mouse wheel forward or back is the same thing in the end. 

 

I have tried the .75 zoom, which of course has a slight improvement on the distance of which the runway detail is viewable.. But still reduces the ability to see all the gauges. 

 

It sounds like Iwebber has the exact same problem. I am wondering is it just a limitation of FS9, or is this a settings, config related issue.... We should be able to see the runway details from fairly far out i would have thought. For some reason i have only noticed it now, and i have been simming for 25yrs. 

 

What about you Appliance? Approx how far out can you see the runways touch zones, and details? And at what zoom? 

 

I have uploaded more test images just for reference. 

 

First shot is at .75 1 mile out 

Second at 1.00 1 mile out 

Third is .75 but slightly closer to the runway. .8Mile out

 

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2EaH_NvDdmDWTRpSWxhdzFKbWc&usp=sharing

 

Thanks again for your continued support Gents. 

 

Brocky D

[Appliance 51]

Brocky D I fly tubes mainly these days in FS9.  I am more intent on the instruments, checklists, PAPI and conversing with ATC and MCE rather than the runway markings.  One of the reasons I don't run one of the freeware/payware Airport environment programs ... wasted on me, at least.

 

When I was flying GA in FS9 years ago I seem to recall trying to identify small bush strips by zooming in whilst the cockpit/gauges remained unaffected.  Can't remember which program or key combination enabled that.  I am getting on you know.  :rolleyes:

[Brockyd 0]

I agree Appliance... I too am more of a tube pilot focusing on realistic global operations.... In fact it takes me around 20mins just to SETUP a flight with all the planning, Simcharts, weather forecasting,  FSpassanger ect. 

 

I was just recently feeling like some free flying around the Philippines using Dash 7s, and YS 11's. This is when i notice the touchzones... I dont need them, but it was more about the realism of graphics.

 

Thanks for your help Mate. I know some issues just cant be resolved, but i wanted to see what the community through, or if it was just my Sim. 

 

Happy flying.

BD