LOLWell, I'm trying here to begin the first ever totally postive appaluding post to say thanks and well done to the developers of the great fun program FS Passangers. Brilliant.This is easy, to be positive; I'm smiling and thinking nice things as I'm typing and it feels great. I'm going to buy 20 copiew of this program!I can't wait to try it out. It's going to be such fun!Screaming passangers. Wonderful. That will teach me to be more careful and foucus me. It will teach me to take life more sersiously rahter than throwing the aircraft around like life has no meaning. And it's real. Great idea to increase my ahrenalin as I take of, turn and land.It teaches me to love people in the words of Matthew. To love thy passanger and to vaule life. Matthew is a senior officer at British Airways where they do not like crashing at all. I can't rememeber the last time a BA pilot lost and aircraft. Flying is a serious business, not a game.But we have had screaming passangers like the time the brilliant first officer saved all souls on borad and the whole aircraft was screaming. At 17,000 feet the front window blue out in a BAC-111. The pilot was half out of the aircraft, and I tell you what eveyone survived and the screaming passangers probably only help the really foucused firts officer to get the aircraft down really quickly to land.This is a simulator, not a game and anything to add some feel of the pain and fear people are going through only helps the simulation experience.In a first person shooter the objective is to kill people and lots of people do that, especially children. The intentions are to kill. By comparison, FSPassengers objective is to privale life and limb; so how can anyone find any kind of fault with screaming passangers? Amazing that they can, and what is their ojective. To love thy brother or to cause discord. To preach morals maybe. Is that right? To enforce moral views on others, when people are having fun and a developer has worked hard to keep us happy with good product.Is it fair and loving to try and trash a product in this way? Trust me; I got slammed by many people when I brought out FE and FS Water.There are certain people that bring discord and venom to these new products or threads. We know them by their deeds and seldom to the negative posters have real names, like Peter Wilding or Anthony Vos; they are nearly alway, just a simple Eric or Mike567 ot simdiver. Never a George Smith to be seen posting negative.It does supprise me just a little that anyone can find any kind of fault in the idea of screaming passnagers. If you don't want the passangers to scream value their life. Think of this as a life simulator. You decide if the passangers scream.We are all different but I've not crashed an aircraft for a long time and I hate crashing aircraft. I like to fly in a smooth and convincing way. I've seen hands on other very experinced simmers fly in very erractic ways, jerking the aircraft in big movements and crashing frequently.So I doubt if I'll be hearing passangers scream but maybe on a long haul flight it will bring some near exciting elements to my flights and stop me from falling asleep at my COMPUTER. YES IT'S A COMPUTER IN A SMALL ROOM AND I'M ON MY OWN. I FLY IN A VIRTUAL WORLD.So anything that gives me more sounds like a lot of fun.One of my beta testers last night said, "Peter, you've got to try this. I just bought FS Passangers and it's amazing. Makes it all so real, you have to buy it but there is a Demo so please download it and give it a go. And yes, I'll be buying this product. And I pray to God that I never hear a passanger scream but more that this...I pray to God that the negative posters stop hitting on new products and attempting to distroy all Gods new creations. And God creates through people as Satan distroys creation through people.You decide which voice you want to hear, mine is the voice of God and to love and to create.Peter

Here endeth the lesson..Now please open your hymn books at page six.Ian:-)

.... don't know what you're using, but I could sure use some!Toni.

Laughing my bottom off LOLPeter

Thank God you didn't turn to page 666,Now that would have been a bad omenPeter

Ok, I know I'm going to get slammed: I downloaded the demo and tried some flights. I *really* enjoy the concept behind FSP and want it to succeed. It adds a tremendous amount to the FS experience. HOWEVER. Right away I noticed that when I resized any window (like the standard FS ATC window) or moved them around the entire display would distort. It would eventually reset itself after about 2 sec. This made me very skeptical that FSP is linking to FS in a good way. I know it doesn't use FSUIPC. I checked into the forums at FSP and there are reports of CTD's appearing after installing FSP, scenery errors messages, and scenery blocks missing. I uninstalled FSP and all my display issues immediately disappeared. For now, I'm going to skip FSP and wait to see if it becomes a more stable program. I hope Dan will make the link for FSP through FSUIPC in future, or figure out where the graphics issue is. It doesn't make sense to me as the program really doesn't involve graphics except through the pop up window. But if it is having this big of an effect, there may be larger underlying problems. I know that only a minority of users are seeing these issues, but that does not mean they are not real. IF a V2.0 comes out that looks better, I'll be a buyer, until then caveat emptor. Mike

How dare you resize a windown. What utter foolishness.LOLNever tried that Mike. By the sound of it you like the program and found an issue. I'm very confident that issue will be fixed very soon.Nobody is going to slamb you mate. You are far too nice a guy.Peter

Interesting:I also had a couple of glitches on my first two tries:First flight, useing a default 737-400. This may be the problem for that flight as this is the first time I have addressed an MSFS default in a number of years, and a number of versions. I took off and think that I retracted the gear. When I reached my destination, I could not extend the gear or flaps no matter what I did. (KSFO-KPHX).I then enabled my Citation X and changed the keystrokes (that were some of my favorites which were bumpted in the first flight). Flew from KSFO-KSAN. Everything went fine until I started reducing power. It converted to a single engine application somewhere on the way. While I taxied at KSFO and took off, she was a two engine aircraft. I never had one change in the air before.I am not quite as sold on it as some seem to be. I Haven't done anything to make anybody scream yet with all pleased customers, but it does look like a worthy program to me.Happy flying:RTH