Look......I know I'm going to get "blasted" for this, but sorry, that's the way it is.I buy a lot of payware, and I shutter when I see some of these great heavies like the upcoming 777, because I still haven't taken the time to learn the FMC. I like the default GPS and I wish that Flight One and other companies would just include it as an option. You navigation perfectionists don't have to use it...use the FMC. But I want the plane for its quality and flight characteristics and because I enjoy my hobby just the way it is. If Flight One and other developing companies want my money (PMDG, for example) and the money of other "closet GPS users", then at least make it an option for us who are too involved in other things and perhaps "too lazy" to learn the FMC to use and enjoy their work.Enough said....Now tell me why I should be navigating the right way!

If you like the default GPS you can easily add it to any aircraft you desire. No need to wait for developers to do it. I've added to payware , old time aircraft... all sorts.Just search around for some tutorials on adding gauges. ;)

I like navigation the old way. With VOR's. Just don't like programming a machine then flying to a map. I program with FSnav, export to RC and away I go.JimCYWG

yep, got it in all of my payware also, with its associated database it makes a great 'electronic flight bag'in fact going to put it in the PMDG 747 tonight (should take about 10 minutes or so)

No need to blast you. After all it is your sim to do with as you wish. You really might want to learn about the FMC though. I find it quite rewarding now that I know how to use it. It changes somewhat according to the aircraft but once you have mastered one,you will have an easy time learning the others. I love the challenge of learning new things.

Please email me the "how to add GPS" to payware instructs or the web site that explains it. I'd be very grateful. I was under the impression the PMDG planes would not allow it added to be added. This is great news, if possible.please email it to me at [email protected], Stan

Why should they cater to a category of users their products aren't designed for, thereby increasing the price of those products for everyone when the vast majority won't want the option that caused that price increase?There's a different class of payware products for you. That's freedom of choice.

"...because I still haven't taken the time to learn the FMC", "Enough said....Now tell me why I should be navigating the right way!"You answered your own question, ergo, the "right way". Of course its your hobby and your level of satisfaction and the overall experience is always quite subjective. But if you admit to not taking the time to learn then I think it quite presumptious to ask developers to take extra time to compensate for your personal choices. This hobby is an investment in money as well as time, and part of that time is a learning experience through a sense of accomplishment in the mastery of the complex. Of course, again, you may choose not to partake of that opportunity, but it presents itself none-the-less.The general usage of FMCs is actually deceptively simple. Once you've created a flight plan, import it from the FMC RTE page. Put in your take off ruway, zero fuel weight, reseve fuel, planned cruise altitude, and take off flap settings. Done! You can have the FMC programmed and ready to go in under 2 minutes! All the other bells and whistles can or cannot be learned but for the most part are unnecessary for 99% of your flights.If you're willing to learn the task of importing the GPS, how much harder could it be to learn to program the FMC?Convinced yet? :-)Regards,Mike T.

Stan,Here's something you might not have thought of:It just isn't possible in some cases. PMDG's 737 and 747 for instance do not take cues from the default FS autopilot, they've coded their own completely custom one that takes its cues from a faithful reproduction of the internal FMC/flight-director logic. It's not nearly as simple as adding an entry for the default GPS in the panel.cfg - you could do that very easily with any of these planes, but the thing is, the autopilot isn't going to follow the route on it, you'd have to manually do it in heading select.I know it's not what you want to hear, but seriously why not try learning the FMC? Once you learn it in one plane, be it PMDG, LDS, or whatever, you're going to have a foothold on knowing how to use one in any other plane - they all operate under very similar methodology. There are several very very good tutorials out for these products that walk you through it step by step. You'll be at the point very quickly where you can have the whole FMC programmed for a flight in a matter of 5 minutes or so - the preflight proceedures become second nature.

My 2 pence worth.1. People should do whatever makes them happy. Never forget that. however :)I used to fly payware aircraft without using the FMC a great deal. Import from FSNAV and use LNAV to flythe flight plan. Control the aircraft with VS and Auto throttle etc etc, you would get errors, maybe you had too much fuel and the bird would not climb, but hey, it did not matter, just set a lower altitude or take some fuel out.I then discovered with a tiny bit of effort on my part, and reading the FMC manual, and a few guides I could actually programme an entire FMC, use very single feature, work out my weights, use LNAV and VNAV for real, the aircraft actually flew how it was meant too. thats why they have FMC's, to fly the plane, I still hand fly most approaches but half the fun is actually learning how o prgramme the FMC, its the heart of a modern aircraft, and if you want realism, which is why most of us do this, then flying by GPS when you have an FMC is beyond me.The most satisfying part for me? Flying back from Barbados this year on a 777. Arranging to meet the first officer at the rear of the aircraft about 4 hours into the flight (ooo errr) and actually having a 45 minute discussion with him about flying his aircraft, speaking the same language, him understanding me and me understanding him.thats as real as it gets for me :)