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Windows Anniversary Update + XP11 causes frame rate drop and VR drop

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I had two test images of windows.. one was windows anniversary update... both testing XP11 now beta3.. and flyinside..

 

In general going from one image to the other i saw a fps drop.. particularly in the ATW part of VR+Flyinside, but also in the sim frame rate.  I verified this by updating my test image to the anniversary update.

 

I know its been discussed outside of here at least, that one fix was to disable the GameDVR in the Xbox app.. which i did, this made no difference.

I also tried disabling the defender services but that made no difference.

 

I suspect when i move on to do an msconfig and start only minimal services i may see it return to normal, but isolating the cause will be tricky.

 

I also check the cpu utilization and I'm not seeing any processes sucking up extra cpu cycles beyond XP when running, so that is also strange.  Another test i did was to do a clean wipe of nvidia drivers and reinstall the latest, no joy.

 

Anyone else noticed this and able to isolate the cause?

 

Thanks in advance


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I suspect you are really looking for an answer to your issue, but why start a new thread when you were already asking the same question in another?

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/500034-xp11-flyinside-vr-experiences-and-questions/?p=3533197


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I suspect you are really looking for an answer to your issue, but why start a new thread when you were already asking the same question in another?

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/500034-xp11-flyinside-vr-experiences-and-questions/?p=3533197

 

Because this is not a VR issue, but a generic issue entirely.. not everyone here will read a VR thread to discover the question :)  My other thread is just notes on what i'm finding over time for VR with XP.


P3D Settings (GEX, UTX, Vector, FTX, REX)

P3D v3.3 VR thread; XP11 SMP vs Default vs XE(video)

Asus Maximus X Hero Z370; 850watt Seasonic psu; SL Delid 8700k 5.1 at 1.39 and avx-1; F4-3200C15D-32GTZ @1.41 and 3400; TT 3.0 Riing Ultimate Water-64C Prime95B(24c ambient)-70c normally; Thermaltake v51 Case; Evga 1080FTW Hybrid Water; VR-Rift/Vive;

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So you are saying that there is an issue with VR, Flyinside and XP 11 beta3, combined with an anniversary update from Windows 10 right?  I can attest that I have the anniversary update with Windows 10 (much to my apprehension), but XP 11 beta 3 works as it did prior to the update.  I don't use VR nor Flyinside, so maybe you could pose the question to those who created Flyinside and maybe you might get a quicker answer?


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So you are saying that there is an issue with VR, Flyinside and XP 11 beta3, combined with an anniversary update from Windows 10 right?  I can attest that I have the anniversary update with Windows 10 (much to my apprehension), but XP 11 beta 3 works as it did prior to the update.  I don't use VR nor Flyinside, so maybe you could pose the question to those who created Flyinside and maybe you might get a quicker answer?

 

Ah sorry, i guess the way i worded it and the title i chose for this one was misleading.. no.. i have a 2D drop in frame rate too, outside of VR.  I spotted this issue in other non flight sim threads, thats where i got the tip on disabling the dvr, but it didnt help.  A few have thought there was a KB that was installed that may have caused it as well, which might need removed (havent tried this)

 

I had regular 2D frame rates in the upper 20s which became low 20s after the update.. i will retest to be certain, but im 90% sure its 2D as well.

 

That is.. some new process, though not sucking cpu cycles must be interfering 

 

I hope to try some things later tonight to isolate the problem, but i was hoping someone would say, oh its xyz that caused it 


P3D Settings (GEX, UTX, Vector, FTX, REX)

P3D v3.3 VR thread; XP11 SMP vs Default vs XE(video)

Asus Maximus X Hero Z370; 850watt Seasonic psu; SL Delid 8700k 5.1 at 1.39 and avx-1; F4-3200C15D-32GTZ @1.41 and 3400; TT 3.0 Riing Ultimate Water-64C Prime95B(24c ambient)-70c normally; Thermaltake v51 Case; Evga 1080FTW Hybrid Water; VR-Rift/Vive;

Flight-Stew | Tech-Stew

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