Yes, you're right. I think I misunderstood you- the MAP is in fact a waypoint and not the r/w threshold. They are just co-related (in some cases).Bruce.

From the wording, it was sounding like you meant the physical threshold was the MAP, not a waypoint. I didn't want to leave those that didn't know in the dark, that there will always be a MAP waypoint regardless of it being over the threshold or at another location. I kept reading through my training materials there making sure I wasn't losing my mind or something. :-lol I'm glad we are finally seeing what each other are seeing. :-hah----------------------------------------------------------------John MorganReal World: KGEG, UND Aerospace Spokane Satillite, Private ASEL 141.2 hrs, 314 landings, 46 inst. apprs.Virtual: MSFS 2004"There is a feeling about an airport that no other piece of ground can have. No matter what the name of the country on whose land it lies, an airport is a place you can see and touch that leads to a reality that can only be thought and felt." - The Bridge Across Forever: A Love Story by Richard Bach

":-lol I'm glad we are finally seeing what each other are seeing. :-hah"Of course :). You're right though- instrument flying is tough enough to understand without any further confusion that gets added here, even in good intent.Thanks for correcting me- Bruce.

Thanks for the plate scan. I was using a CD collection and the scan was not clear enough to show the MAP waypoint. I now know how it is indicated for RNAV/GPS plates.