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Flak software and experience ?

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Paul "Gypsy Baron" Strogen has some years ago written some effects for fsx thats simulates antiaircraft artillery

when flying over an area were this artillery is placed. I would like to see those effects in an Animation

I'm making for the Dutch "end of WWII"-comite.

you can see it here :

 

I have the Software for it but I can't see were those artillery has been place.

Anyone ?

Thanks.

 

Henk.

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Hi Henk - not sure what question you are asking.

 

If it's where do you instal the FLAK package files, if you have the full package, the readme text file guides you through the instal and where to place the files.

 

On the other hand if you are asking where the flak effects are located geographically, the package incudes maps showing where the flak positions are placed I think Paul pretty much covered all the major cities of northern mainland Europe as well as the coast.

 

Note that the flak effects are just that - aerial effects. Don't expect to see actual flak positions on the ground.

 

Did you try to contact Paul (Gypsy Baron) directly ? I found him to be very helpful.

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Thanks for reply , Dick.

I do see an Europe.jpg with red spots of the flak locations. I do not have exact locations. I flew the coastline from south to north of Holland but no flak effects. In the readme it is mentioned that you should be within appr. 1 nm range of a flak. Maybe it's a setting to activate? Scenery is loaded.

I also can not find an email of Paul even not sure if he is still around.

 

Henk.

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Yes - that's the map I meant.

 

I do recall that when I first installed the package I didn't see any flak either.  I contacted Paul, and it turned out most of the effects didn't trigger unless you were above about 8-10,000 ft. Though I think Paul fixed that later so the effects triggered from ground level.

 

The other thing to try is to crank up your scenery complexity and special effects detail settings in FSX settings. That may make a difference.

 

Then try flying  over Frankfurt, Bremen or Berlin. The flak is pretty hot there ! If you don't see any flak then something definitely not right.

 

I contacted Paul as Gypsy Baron via PM over at the Sim Outhouse forum. Looks like he's still active over there.

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Hi Dick ,

 

I flew above Bremen at about 7000 ft. Nothing there.

Do you know where at Bremen? North , south ?

I will try your suggestion to crank up scenery complexity.

Maybe that helps.

 

Thanks for trying to help.

 

Henk.

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You may have to go higher. I seem to recall flak started around 7800ft. Yu may be just below it. Suggest you fly at 10,000 to be sure.

 

(Seems weird telling someone to fly into flak :smile:)

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I will try this.

 

(Seems weird telling someone to fly into flak :smile:)

 

Haha , that is true :-)

 

I heard that it needs accelaration. You know if that is true ? I have fsx + sp1 + sp2.

 

Henk.

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I will try this.

 

(Seems weird telling someone to fly into flak :smile:)

 

Haha , that is true :-)

 

I heard that it needs accelaration. You know if that is true ? I have fsx + sp1 + sp2.

 

Henk.

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If you would like some "real" flak - the kind that can damage you or take you down - you don't have that much longer to wait.



FSCaptain 1.8 will contain a scripting engine and the ability to place SimObjects that can shoot bullets, tracers, flak, and IR guided missiles at the user.  It will also work seamlessly to weaponize SimObjects from other packages like FSX@War (which was used to place the objects in the video).

The video will tell you much more.  It doesn't show actual flak but that's just because I flew around and not over the positions with the ZPU-37s.  Because I wanted to stay alive :)

Dutch
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Hi Folks

I would be really interested in this FLAK package. Can anyone point me to where I can download it.

 

As always, many thanks

 

Andy

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I couldn't find it on the AVSIM library. As far as I know it's only available on Sim Outhouse. Search on "Flak_Package_V2.0".

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DickB

Thanks for the quick response. Unfortunately, no luck there either

 

Thanks again

Andy

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The only place I saw it was in a post by Gypsy Baron giving a link. The link is dead at SOH.

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I'm just in the process of training up for the Dambusters raid, with a nice Lanc, some RAF Scampton software and the Derwent dam as well as the target Mohne, Sorpe and Eder dams. Still,learning how to fly the Lanc. Just installed Flak, and by god does it do the job! What a great add on!

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I'm just in the process of training up for the Dambusters raid, with a nice Lanc, some RAF Scampton software and the Derwent dam as well as the target Mohne, Sorpe and Eder dams. Still,learning how to fly the Lanc. Just installed Flak, and by god does it do the job! What a great add on!

 

Paul,

 

The 91st Bombarment Group flies that mission pretty much every year.

I created some additional low level FLAK and AAA with tracers to 'protect'

a couple of the dams. I forget which now, and I am 'down under' for a couple

of weeks and on my laptop so I may not be able to pull out the files and make

them available. I'll look into this a bit later.

 

   Paul

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Paul, I would really, really appreciate those extra effects! I have a while, yet, I have yet to learn to navigate at 100 feet by moonlight, so have lots of occupy me! I will definately be in touch in a couple of weeks (to jog your memory!) When you say 'down under', do you mean Oz?

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Paul,

 

The 91st Bombarment Group flies that mission pretty much every year.

I created some additional low level FLAK and AAA with tracers to 'protect'

a couple of the dams. I forget which now, and I am 'down under' for a couple

of weeks and on my laptop so I may not be able to pull out the files and make

them available. I'll look into this a bit later.

 

   Paul

Hi Paul (Gypsy Baron) - please add me to the list for the dams flak. I did modify your stuff to provide some activity around the Mohne Dam, but I never really finished it and I'm sure you did it better !

 

Strictly speaking, the Mohne was the only dam that was protected. Though of course there are/were well documented hotspots along their route.

 

PS I do hope you don't fly the dams raid in B-17s :smile:

 

DB

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Hi Paul (Gypsy Baron) - please add me to the list for the dams flak. I did modify your stuff to provide some activity around the Mohne Dam, but I never really finished it and I'm sure you did it better !

 

Strictly speaking, the Mohne was the only dam that was protected. Though of course there are/were well documented hotspots along their route.

 

PS I do hope you don't fly the dams raid in B-17s :smile:

 

DB

 

I had originally put the low FLAK and AAA at the Mohne, Eder and

the Sorpe, I removed the 'protection' for that in a later update.

 

The 91st flies the mission in Lancasters with a 'makeshift wooden

bomb sight'.

Our flight plan takes us to the Mohne and Eder dams from RAF Scampton.

That air base scenery was created for this mission.

 

Here are a couple of JPGs of the attack run flight segments:

 

Mohne%20Bomb%20Run.jpg

 

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Eder%20Bomb%20Run.jpg

 

I'll get back to you on the files for the mission via a PM.

 

And Paul, yes I am in Oz at the moment. Sydney to be specific.

I needed a couple of weeks of 'summer' to escape the cold, rainy

San Francisco winter! 

 

I will PM you as well with the Operation Chastise files.

 

   Paul 

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Oh, nice maps! Anything you can supply will be fantastic, I'm still practicing. Just managed to tweak moonlighting to allow me to see the lake surface and ground at night in full moon.

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Those are indeed nice maps. Better than I've seen in many an academic book on the subject. Although I think Gibson and co's original arrival track to the Mohne was more from the north, and to the east of the dam. But that's a nit.

 

At the Eder, Ray Grayston (flight engineer with Les Knight, who broke the dam) said the technique they used was to idle the throttles and glide into the valley, and then at 60 ft open up the throttles to full for the (very short) run to the dam. I have to say I've tried that in simulation, and can't get the speed (I use 240 mph rather than 220) in time for the wall.

 

You don't show a map for the Sorpe (the earth dam), where of course the attack was along the length of the dam, with no bounce or spinning.

 

I'll look out for the files - thanks !

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