Guys,Correct me if im wrong here, i was just browsing and came upon this one Addictive Simulations Trident. Now am i just making a mistake here, for one it is payware, that to the freeware one in the Lib. If you get this you pretty much just pay to have a virtual cabin right?, no other significant changes, e.a flight model or something.Happy holidays,AVGAS

They both have VCs but the adictive version also has a V/cabin, but what is most important to me is the adictive version includes the trident 1 which is the aircraft used by BKS (whome my late father used to fly for) the DM version does include the BKS livery but it is applied to a Trident 2.

ohh ok thanks Bruce

However if there is no specific reason other than personal that you need a virtual cabin or Trident One then the freeware Trident pack is top notch in my unexperienced opinion, and Bob is right about various reasons , I got the freeware because in my youth I was on board a Trident Two at the Duxford Air Museumn in Britain and I never forgot the aircraft, it was like stepping into a time warp, so I was delighted with freeware version, autoland works and a virtual cockpit!George Tyrrell

I meant Bruce, I really did no idea why that came out Bob, far too much eggnog at this early stage

EMERGENCY POSTJust to make sure you know.The Addictive Simulations Trident is nothing whatsoever to do with David Maltby (me) or the freeware Trident. Nothing at all.It is made by another person altogether.And don't be fooled into thinking that because you are paying, it must be a better than the freeware model.If you want an independent opinion, ask around for yourself. Preferably anyone who knows the aircraft. ex-Trident Captains, designers, engineers, those kinds of people. Or at least a Trident enthusiast.What a post to have to make on Christmas Day.:( DM

Well if it makes any difference a view from one person, little ol' me hehe for u David. I wasnt planning on getting it, you did an OUTSTANDING one yourself not to mention your 1-11 I own both and getting they're plenty of hours hehe. I was just wondering because i found it a bit strange. btw. you planning a Comet anytime soon?? ;)AVGAS

I'm neither a past pilot nor an engineer David but I think your Trident is absolutely stunning, even though I have the 'top o the line' Payware I still devote many hours to the Trident Freeware Version because i love the Aircraft and the job you did with it many many thanks,George Tyrrell

For anybody wanting superb freeware BAC One-Elevens, Tridents, Comets or VC-10's this is the link to David Maltby's site.http://www.dmflightsim.co.uk/You won't be disappointed!You might be able to do a search in the Avsim library also.There are many great repaints in the library for these aircraft, mainly by Garry Russell.Rick Piper's web site is also well worth a look - all high quality stuff.http://www.btinternet.com/~rick.piper/index.htmRob

The DM Trident is top quality.It has a VC with special functions ,to access quickly the autopilot for example. And something I appreciate very much: an online documentation that you can consult from the cockpit!The autoland is one of the best I know. Not to forget the sounds which are very good also.I also like very much David's VC-10.Guy

Hi AVGAS,I am Addictive Simulations and I can confirm that my Trident is nothing whatever to do with David Maltby and his team of freeware designers.Firstly I would like to wish everyone - especially David Maltby - a very Happy Christmas. I've only seen a few screenshots of David's new One-Eleven but they make it look very good. I look forward to the challenge of making a One-Eleven myself sometime in the future. The Addictive Trident is made entirely by myself from scratch except for the extremely realistic sound set which was made almost entirely by Mike Hambly as I ran out of time to do this myself. I do have some real Trident sounds myself both inside and out and I travelled on them very many times until my mid teens. The sounds are extremely good. My publishers and I wanted to get the Trident in the shops in time for Christmas which we managed by the skin of our teeth due to me working 14 to 16 hour days on it in the preceding 2 or 3 weeks! (Amazingly, my wife is still talking to me ;) ) If it was not distributed by November 26th it would have been put back to February so the deadline was important. I am happy to say that my publishers sold over 1000 copies in the last week of November alone! I don't yet know how well it is doing this month but like the Addictive VC10 there have been practically no support calls.Our Vickers VC10 simulation has been around for some time now and has also been selling successfully in shops since August. I am absolutely thrilled to announce that this aircraft has just won the FlightSim.com Product Of The Year Award 2005 which they informed me of on Christmas Eve. This was the best Christmas present anyone could possibly have given me. This is for Best Vintage Airliner and the coveted award goes only to those considered to be above and beyond their regular Gold and Platinum awards and take into account customer care and the shopping experience as well as the aircraft itself. I am sure you can imagine how thrilled my family and I are. http://www.abacus.org/vc10/award2005small.jpgNow with the Trident I have tried to take things to another level. This aircraft as you pointed out has a virtual cabin. This is for those ActiveCamera junkies who have the freedom to stroll down the cabin and sit in a wing-view seat or read the in-flight brochures provided on the tables :) It also has glass windows and a very realistic flight model. The Trident was notoriously difficult to get off the ground and the Addictive Trident accurately models this. It wasn't called the "Gripper" for nothing! :) I hear that pilots joked it only got airborn because of the curvature of the Earth :) Interestingly the Trident had a very good safety record. This was almost certainly due to it being so hard to get airborn that pilots always treated it with the respect required. They knew everything had to be done exactly right or they would likely kill everyone on board! Customers seem very happy with our Trident and apart from some texture problems in the initial release there have been no issues with it. Like our VC10, the Trident was pirated within 24 hours of release. The pirate was stupid enough not to wait a few days so we knew his identity and were able to shut it down! A recent update has fixed the texturing problem. Updates will be free for the life of the aircraft. I have several things I will be improving over the next few months and there are a couple of liveries to add including Bruce's BKS Trident 1 which will now receive priority treatment :)I have kept my next project under my hat but as British aircraft, especially jets, are where my roots lie and I stated above that I will be making a One-Eleven some time in the future it probably doesn't take a genius to work out that my next project, on the request of customers and my publishers, will be the 4 engined Comet jetliner. I am currently working on a software project for a business customer but as soon that that is complete I will be diving headlong into the Comet. After that will probably be a single seater if I get my way although for commercial reasons I have to listen to my publishers!I would like to thank all of my customers for their support and kind comments and wish everyone a Happy, Prosperous and Peaceful New Year. David ChesterAddictive Simulationswww.addictive.ithttp://www.abacus.org/vc10/vc10.jpg

Sorry David, but the FS.com "Best Vintage Airliner of the Year" only applies to PAYWARE aircraft for one and for two, Cap Mason did the decisionmaking on who got the award, not the USERS, so try putting more weight into the response of USERS who have both aircraft and less in an editor's choice award that is given to payware products only.

Oh dear,Here we go again..................................Dave T. .........On the Devon Riviera and active 'FlightSim User's Group' member at http://www.flightsimgrpuk.free-online.co.uk/