January 3, 200620 yr Okay, I need some help, please!Up until yesterday, my flight simulator has worked just fine.I noticed yesterday that my flight controls are non responsive. Specifically, when I pull the yoke back, to gain altitude, nothing happens.My first thought was to reinstall my "Flight Sim Yoke". Which I did.No change.When I look in spot view at my aircraft, and I push/pull the yoke, I can see the control surfaces moving. But I climb in the plane to take off, hit the throttle, and speed up. At V1, I rotate, but the aircraft just continues on down the runway, ultimately crashing...This effect is noticed in all aircraft, but seems worse in the heavies...I am at a loss...any suggestions would be really appreciated.Clayton Siem
January 3, 200620 yr Check trim. You have probably inadvertently left the autopilot on on the ground at some point and the trim will have wound full. Allcott
January 3, 200620 yr Thanks for the prompt reply, Allcott.I checked...it is not the trim.It seems to be only jet aircraft, and then, only certain jets.For instance, I set up at active at KATL, load the JCA 717, flaps, hit the throttle.I hit 140, and rotate. From spot view, the control surfaces move. The plane just continues on its way, no rotation.I hit "change aircraft", go to cessna 172, try to rotate, and it comes up fine.I fly the cessna to FL4, then change back to 717 (or 747, or seemingly any other jet), then the aircraft slowly flies itself into the ground, with full pull on the yoke.I can't seem to find any pattern. It affects most (not all) jets. With no rhyme or reason.I have reinstalled the JCA 717 to see if that corrected the problem.No help.Reinstalled the yoke. No help.Control panel shows the yoke is working fine.I am convinced it is a FS issue.Sorry I can't be any more specific, but like I said...it is not possible for me to trace issue...Somebody help...
January 3, 200620 yr Commercial Member Select the default Cessna/Seattle flight as your start-up flight, exit FS and restart, select the MS 737 and change the fuel to 50%..........any change?If not, slew (Y, F4) to say 5,000ft to again confirm you still can't pull up, if so, push the nose down...........does this work?http://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...BANNER_PAUL.jpg Cheers Paul Golding
January 3, 200620 yr I did exactly what you asked, exactly how you asked.I could get the nose of the 737 to lift off the ground at 200-210 knots. It seemed to fly normally then. However, it got odd again as I slowed my airspeed down. The nose falls normally with the yoke; it is pulling back (ascending) that seems to be the only issue.I then reset the flight, swapped into the JCA 717. Pulled back on the yoke at 140 knots. Nost never left the ground, even with airspeeds of 240 knots. I tried the 747 (default). It, too, will only take off at 200+ knots.This is weird.Clayton
January 3, 200620 yr Commercial Member Very strange. It does sound like a weight/trim issue though. This would explain why you needed so much speed to lift off, yet were able to control the airplane OK at speed and again had trouble as the speed dropped.Maybe you could do the same again? This time make sure you've set the 737 flaps at 15 and try setting the trim so it's only about 1/4 the way down the trim indicator..............what speed do you lift off at now?Gear up, flaps up and accelerate to 300kts and use the A/T to hold the speed (No AP) and use trim to hold say 5,000ft. Now climb.....how's it feel?With the 717, how much fuel (%) did you set, how much flap and how much trim?http://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...BANNER_PAUL.jpg Cheers Paul Golding
January 3, 200620 yr First of all, THANKS for the time and the help with my little issue.Okay, did like you asked...737-400: with 50% fuel, flaps at 15, and fuel at 50%, liftoff at 160+ knots...that seems close to correct...whole lot closer than it was...I then set airspeed a/t'd at 300 knots and rose to FL5 hands-on...at 5k, I tried some manuevers...seems to fly as I remember...huh...(here I switched tasks and got into FS9 and tried the 717...)okay...okay...after much to do, it seems it IS a trim issue...as you thought. I seemed to have figured it out.Listen, thanks again for the help! It is really appreciated.Clayton
January 3, 200620 yr You have to remember that the trim moves the entire horizontal stabilizer on most jets, so even though the elevator does move through its whole range, the whole slab may be so far off that the elevator doesn't have enough authority to override it until you have a lot more airspeed.This is why many planes have a trim in transit aural warning...to give the crew a shot at detecting/disconnecting the trim in a runaway condition before it gets to full deflection. If it gets all the way there with no way to get it back, you've got some flyin to do that more resembles doing about 200 50-lb curls...And if the pilot happens to lack the physical makeup to do those curls...'well, hopefully the copilot ate his wheaties. If not, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission can always 'splain it to the NTSB crash scene investigators.CheersBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Santiago de Chile Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
January 3, 200620 yr Is there a setting somewhere in FS9 to set trim to 0 as eaCh plane loads (or reloads)?Somehow ALL my trims on ALL my planes are set Crazy!!!Is there a way to reset all of them, or do it individually with eaCh plane?Thanks,Clayton
January 4, 200620 yr Clayton:The value is set in the default flight file. This is the flight which automatically loads when you start FS. The file is wound in "C:Documents and Settings***My DocumentsFlight Simulator Files". Right click on whichever flight is your default flight, select open with, use word pad and go to the section below.[Controls.0]SpoilersHandle=000.00LeftSpoiler=000.00RightSpoiler=000.00FlapsHandle=000.00LeftFlap=000.00RightFlap=000.00GearsHandle=100.00Gear1=100Gear2=100Gear3=100YokeY=050.00YokeX=050.00Rudder=050.00LeftBrake=100RightBrake=100ParkingBrake=100.00ElevatorTrim=050.00 ***************** This is the setting which needs to be changedRudderTrim=0AileronTrim=0Once you change it, obviously save it and this will set all aircraft to this value when you load FS.Good luck, - Roger
January 4, 200620 yr Commercial Member The best solution is to have your default start-up as the FS Cessna at Seattle flight, it really does solve/avoid a whole lot of problems.http://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...BANNER_PAUL.jpg Cheers Paul Golding
January 4, 200620 yr Sorry to be a pain, but...I did like you suggested, and opened "default.wx" with notepad.All I see is random characters...how can I make it legible?Am I not opening the correct file?Clayton
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