It looks like you are using the latest version ok. I was thinking something along the same lines for the 'debug' thing too!

12 hours ago, dougfir said:

Also, where do I find the RXP.log file, I have searched my system drive and my game drive and cannot find any log for Reality or Garmin or RXP, etc.

See User's Manual "Troubleshooting" chapter for more information.

@dougfir I've just sent you a PM for a 'test' build. 

@others: please let me know if you have the same issue and I'll try to make you try the test build as well.

NB: while implementing the test build, we've found out something which triggers the issue in the GTN. It might not be related to the issue you are having, but at least, we were able to repro a case where it was 100% failing or 100% not failing, and this has something to do with Windows and file I/O, so we're hoping for the best!

Jean-Luc

From the link you sent me:
"Not Found
The requested document was not found on this server."

Maybe you could try that again.

And right after I sent my previous post I did find the log in documents.
2 logs actually:
1) rxpGtnSim.dll.log
        18/02/24 00:01:50.047 19728 -    ] # rxpGtnSim64.dll version 2.4.14.0
        18/02/24 00:01:50.046 19728 INFO ] 
        18/02/24 00:02:07.849 10660 INFO ] 

2)    rxpGTN.xpl.log    
18/02/24 00:01:47.721 19728 -    ] # win.xpl version 2.4.14.0
18/02/24 00:01:47.721 19728 INFO ] 
18/02/24 00:01:50.351 19728 INFO ] using GTNSIMDATA = "f:\test\Garmin\Trainers\GTN"

Interesting that it recognized GTNSIMDATA but even thought the files "KSLE_KSLE.gfp" and "user.wpt" were at that location I never got an Import button.

If I can get to your test file I will give it a try.

John

I've sent you a new message (add s to file in the url)

Jean-Luc

SOLVED, at least at my end.

When I ran the debug dll and opened the GTN750 the log file showed that it was looking in a totally different place then we had been talking about:
E:\Games\XPlane\MyDownloads\Garmin GTN750 Trainer\GTN\

Of course there was nothing there, not even the FPLN sub-folder.

So I created E:\Games\XPlane\MyDownloads\Garmin GTN750 Trainer\GTN\fpln  and placed the sample files in there and restarted XP and the log now reads:

18/02/25 04:33:50.930 03572 INFO ] CreateFile: R_ s: RWD OPEN_EXISTING A:NORMAL    000007e0 E:\Games\XPlane\MyDownloads\Garmin GTN750 Trainer\GTN\fpln 
18/02/25 04:33:50.938 03572 INFO ] 51d02350 .A.... KSLE_KSLE.gfp
18/02/25 04:33:50.942 03572 INFO ] 51d02350 .A.... user.wpt
18/02/25 04:33:50.947 03572 INFO ] 51d02350 (end)

and now I have the elusive Import button, same for waypoints import.

When I originally downloaded the F1 wrapper for the GTN750 I put it in  E:\Games\XPlane\MyDownloads.

Then I ran the installer from that location and accepted all the defaults from there on.

All it took was that quick debug log and now we know where it was looking.

I will make sure my flight plan creations use that location and I will be good to go.

Thanks for the debugging effort. Hope it helps you as well as it did me.

John

Edited February 25, 20188 yr by RXP

7 hours ago, dougfir said:

E:\Games\XPlane\MyDownloads\Garmin GTN750 Trainer\GTN\

I'm glad it has helped you finding out.

Let me try to understand what you've installed:

Does it means you have a folder "E:\Games\XPlane\MyDownloads\Garmin GTN750 Trainer\DB" which contains files like bmap.bin, safetaxi.bin etc... ? 

These are GTN trainer files only, and this makes me wondering what installer options could you have changed from the default (which would be in ProgramData) that lead the GTN Trainer to install its own file someplace else? Especially because there is no installer option to alter these 'program data' files installation path in the GTN Trainer installer?!?!?

Jean-Luc

That is a mystery to me as well.

I downloaded the original e-commerce wrapper to E:\Games\XPlane\MyDownloads just as a place to save it.

I ran the exe and took the defaults and never saw any mention of C:\ProgramData, I just accepted whatever defaults came up.

It installed the Garmin Trainer to e:\Games\XPlane\MyDownloads\Garmin GTN750 Trainer\ and under that it created 3 folders: Databases, GTN, and Launcher.
Under GTN there are a whole bunch of folders e.g., active, audio, bin, etc.
Of course there was no FPLN folder until I added it after looking at your debug log.
Why your software looked there I don't know.

In addition, as I showed in my previous post of a log entry:
18/02/24 00:01:50.351 19728 INFO ] using GTNSIMDATA = "f:\test\Garmin\Trainers\GTN"
your code was aware of the variable but didn't do anything with it.

Seems to me the whole point of having one of those variables would be if you came up with a "no find" situation you would at least try looking at the location defined in GTNSIMDATA. Otherwise why have it?

Finally, why not clear up any possible mystery of locations and simply ask the user at installation "where would you like to store your data" and just use that location?
When I was a working software engineer it was bad form to hard code a location, always ask the user, keep them in the loop.

Thanks

John
 

Edited January 27, 20206 yr by RXP

Hi, where you download the installer is one thing, where it installs the files when ran is another.

IIRC, the latest GTN Trainer v6.41.x installers prompt for a location to install the files to (I don't recall they did before). This location is not hard-coded though, it is in a registry entry: 

on 64 bits windows:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Garmin\Trainers]
"DataPath"="C:\\ProgramData\\Garmin\\Trainers\\"
"BinPath"="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Garmin\\Trainers\\"
"DBDataPath"="C:\\ProgramData\\Garmin\\Trainers\\Databases\\"
"LauncherDataPath"="C:\\ProgramData\\Garmin\\Trainers\\Launcher\\"
"TXIDataPath"="C:\\ProgramData\\Garmin\\Trainers\\TXI\\"
"GTNDataPath"="C:\\ProgramData\\Garmin\\Trainers\\GTN\\"

 

2 hours ago, dougfir said:

It installed the Garmin Trainer to e:\Games\XPlane\MyDownloads\Garmin GTN750 Trainer\ and under that it created 3 folders: Databases, GTN, and Launcher.
Under GTN there are a whole bunch of folders e.g., active, audio, bin, etc.

So, the location to create the FPLN folder is the one where the GTN Trainer expects its data to be located. By default, it is "GTNDataPath".

Should you tell the Garmin GTN Trainer installer to copy the data files to a non standard location, it is expected you remember this when creating the FPLN folder in this particular folder of course. 

The User's Manual says:
Set the application database path, that is where to look for all the db files (terrain, obstacle, navigation etc..) 

The "active, audio, bin etc.." also has "nav_db2.bin, safetaxi.bin, etc.." which are the db files, hence for, it is the location you have to create the FPLN folder as well, and it is the folder you can opt to move or copy elsewhere then point to with the "GTNSIMDATA" ENVAR.

 

2 hours ago, dougfir said:

using GTNSIMDATA = "f:\test\Garmin\Trainers\GTN"
your code was aware of the variable but didn't do anything with it.

 

Please note these ENVARS are only necessary if you want to have 2 trainers installed, and want to make your RXP GTN use one of the 2 in particular. Now, when using environment variables, we internally override the paths the trainer is looking after. 

Should you have set GTNSIMDATA to "E:\Games\XPlane\MyDownloads\Garmin GTN750 Trainer\" instead, I'm sure all would have been working ok.

 

 

Just got Reality XP but also can't find the flight plan.

Placed the FPLN as instructed in the manual but the .gfp file is not detected.

also placed the user.wpt file there but got no user waypoints.

Hopefully there is a solution.

@marhoog I've just sent you a private message (PM).

Thanks for the test build.. Guess what guys..

It was a User error.. Ive missed the point that the Import function is hidden in a menu option within the Flight Plan Catalog. After finding that importing flightplan works great.

I bought the RealityXP GTN 750 yesterday, installed the Trainer 6.21, read the manuals, installed the "C:\ProgramData\Garmin\GTN Trainer Data\GTN\FPLN as per p.9 of the manual... but no way to load user.wpt nor any *.gfg flightplan, no load item in the "Flight plan catalog" or "Waypoint info -user waypoints" menus.
So I spend some time reading the forums... but still stuck...

Hopefully there is a solution.
Thank you so much

I've installed the "Latest compatible database installer 6.62.0", and now I cant access my flightplan !

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Edited July 9, 20196 yr by RXP

Hi,

What other files and or folders do you have in "C:\ProgramData\Garmin\GTN Trainer Data\GTN" ?