Hi I donwloaded a few great Choopers from the Hovercontrol.They are awesome. I obviously have the difficulty level to low to fly these. I also have (no crashes and stuff)There is only one issue. When I pull back the stick slowly to reduce the speed and and adjust the throttle to make the ASI to read 0.0 , then it goes in reverse (moves backward) ..so far so good. someimes it torques right or left and I have to adjust with my pedals for that.But suddenly it goes haywire. it yaws back and forth uncontrollably. Even I put it down on the ground and cut off the throttle.. Its like the Fsim airplane model just breaks down.If at an altitude and this happens, I simply reload the chopper and everything is fine (like had to initialize something).this happens to quite a few choppers. But this does not happen the default MS Choppers.any ideas?Manny

Try pulling your 'realism' sliders back to half. This is a common problem when they are all fully to the right.But I am but a casual rotorman ... get over to www.hovercontrol.com and check all this out properly.MarkMark "Dark Moment" BeaumontVP Fleet, DC-3 AirwaysTeam Member, MAAM-SIM[a href=http://www.swiremariners.com/cathayhk.html" target="_blank]http://www.paxship.com/maamlogo2.jpg[/a]

I think (I won't swear to it though) that hovercontrols choppers are designed around 75% difficulty or so. Choppers are hard to fly, but fun when you get the hang of them, I would personally suggest 99% difficulty and no crashes until you can go from ground, to hover to flight, to hover and back to ground again with some proficiency. Also a thing that I found made it easier was TrackIR 4, as it gives you a lot more spacial awareness that the sim won't normally give you.

Hello,I got into flying helos when I got tired of my GA and Heavy Metal addons. After a lot of setup and adjustments I still had a lot of problems. I fell into the DODOSIM addon by accident. It was the best thing that ever happened to me for learning to fly helos. I'm just a sim pilot so I have no real experience. The DODSIM is totally unforgiving in all aspects of helo flying - from startup to shutdown. The model must be very realistic and the sim suggests all of the settings to get you going. It is not cheap and is not for the faint of heart. After a month of practice, I can startup, takeoff and fly anywhere in its' range. Hover and landing are another thing. I practice with no weather and still have about a 50% success rate landing. In real weather, If I forget to land into the wind, CRASH!Hope my experience helps a little - if you get real serious about helos think about giving the DODOSIM a try.Cheers,Ron SagelBad helo pilot in training

Even one click on the realism bar to the left(from 100% to 99%)will make difference!Are you indoctrinated?http://www.fspassengers.com/images/banner/sig/sdc8.jpg http://www.americanpatrol.com/_icons/BS_No.gif

Manny, make sure your realism slider is low to start and as you get better at it, raise it a little. Never fly at full realism as even the default is uncontrollable at full realism. Go into your joystick sensitivities and decrease your null zone to 0, this will give you the ability to control it better, especially in turns. Most addon choppers get their airfile from the default Bell (none are designed around a % of the airfile, except the Aerosoft seahawk which has a dumbed down airfile to appeal to beginners). The one for Owens bell is one that Jordan at HC tweaked and handles a little better. If you are really having problems, stay out of the VC as the movment will throw you off more, but once you get it down, it's the best, especially with trackIR.It's always interesting to hear about users having problems flying the FS helis as I have been doing it for years and never had any issues with it, even starting out. If you find it challenging, stick with it as it is a great way to fly!PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!Regards, MichaelKDFWhttp://www.calvirair.com/mcpics/tfbeta.jpg

OK.. Maybe I was not clear in my first post.I have the setting to lowest as posssible. I have also tried 50% settings.I have learnt to fly these choppers reasonably well. I can even land these suckers in a helliport on a ship.The Issue I am having is one of technical.Manny

You are creating the problem yourself by going backward too fast. At some speed there isn't enough yaw control to prevent it from very rapidly swapping ends. Due to inertia, this rotation will continue and, as you found out, gets worse. That same lack of yaw control prevents you from stopping it.The only away around this is to prevent it from happening at all. If you execute the speed reduction when you are above 25 ft, chances are very good you'll end up going backward because you are too high for ground reference. In addition, by your own description, you are watching the instruments when you should be watching the ground. Practice this at a height of no more than 10 ft.BTW, the lower you set the so-called "realism" control (General slider), the worse yaw control gets.If you'd like to learn to fly the FS helicopter realistically, go to http://members.shaw.ca/hoversafe/Hoversafe.htm . There you'll find a set of (free) self-teaching lessons (use the FS2002 lessons) that don't require you to memorize unnecessary helicopter aerodynamic theory. That can come later -- if you wish. Don't be fooled by the apparent simplicity of the lessons. This method works in the real world -- why not in FS? Warning: it requires a good deal of dedicated mundane practise. But, it's worth it in the long run.Cal-------------------------------------------------------------Cal BoothHoverSafe Academyhelping people learn to fly the FS helicopter for over 7 yrs

Thanks Cal.If thats how the Yaw thing works in real life... like a fixed wing aircraft getting into a spin.. then its fine. I like realizm. No complaints here. I just wanted to make sure, its not technical.Will come over and start the lessons pretty soon. I like the Chopper thingi.. Its getting to me...in a nice way. :)I am even thinking of taking an orientation flight for real here at Arlington Muni, TX.Manny

That kind of spin doesn't occur in real life -- it's strictly an FS thing. The closest thing to it would be if a tail rotor breaks. A fixed-wing spin is a totally different matter.Yaw control in the default Jet Ranger is deliberately sluggish -- even at full realism. The vast majority of simmers to not have pedals and it is for their benefit it's that way.Unfortunately, torque reaction in the FS helicopter is unrealistic -- primarily because yaw control (pedal authority) is directly proportional to collective pitch (throttle) setting. Aside from that, the rest of its characteristics are quite realistic.Before taking the orientation flight, I'd highly recommend going through the lessons and becoming as adept at hovering as you can. From personal experience, I can tell you it will make a big difference.Good luck with the lessonsCal