May 20, 20188 yr Good morning. I'm experiencing a strange phenomenon when flying long haul. I usually start at a detailed airport, such as Frankfurt (Germany) and have about 23-25 fps. While flying, the frames drop permanently to as low as 14 fps. That takes place over a longer period of time and I've no clue for which reason they do so. At the moment, I'm enroute from EDDF to KATL on VMAX767. After about 5 hours of flight, my fps gradually went down to 15fps. I restarted my Xplane (only the software) and changed nothing. The frames went up to 25-38 fps. Here is my config: Xplane 11.2, VMAX 767, Ortho4XP on i7 3770k, 1080GTX, 24GB RAM Before restart: https://picload.org/view/doopridi/1.jpg.html https://picload.org/view/doopriar/3.jpg.html After restart: https://picload.org/view/doopridw/2.jpg.html https://picload.org/view/doopriaa/5.jpg.html Thank you for your help. Christian
May 20, 20188 yr What scenery are you using ? Default ? SimHeaven ? Orthos ? What mesh ? Default ? Alpilotx's Mesh HD v3 or v4 ? What weather ? Yesterday I flew around EDDF ( not very usual... ) with both the Toliss A319 and the FF A320, and the weather was really dense, with cloud layers extending, even with default X-plane weather, to the tops... This had some huge impact in my rig, and old i5 2500 ( 8 years ) with GTX 960 GPU. Have you disabled threaded optimization in Nvidia ? Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
May 20, 20188 yr Author Hi José. I use Ortho4XP but only at the airport (this particular tile). Framerate wasn't affected by the Frankfurt tile and Atlanta tile was far away (Atlantic Ocean). Mesh is default. I disabled thread optimization via Nvidia settings and used the settings recommended on the german vatsim board. I was able to reproduce the problem and saw the frames kicking back in when i approached and left the area above the clouds. Now I'm trying Auto_LOD plugin, which keeps the frames at or above 30 fps... which seems to be nice. However, that just feels like a workaround. Cheers Chris
May 20, 20188 yr Might be due to the huge OSM data around those airports ? SimHeaven Europe 2 certainly plants a lot of buildings around EDDF. Then the dense skies with various overcast and thick layers also make the fps go near 20 - 21 on my rig, while usually they're above 30 when using either the Tolis A319 or the FF A320. Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
May 22, 20188 yr Author José. Yesterday, I made it into Zurich and frames dropped to 15 fps while descending. They - however - increased once I came closer to the ground back to 20 fps. While descending I switched of rainy weather and had no fps increase. Therefor I guess, the CPU i7 3770k, has trouble with calculating the amount of data of the OSM. I can live with that, but what I don't get is, for which reason does the CPU has no problems whatsoever when departing a complex scenery but struggles with the arrival. Leaving Zurich gave me 30 fps in comparison to 20...
May 22, 20188 yr Strange xris 😕 my old i5 2500 performs more or less acceptably, but I have to admit I use mid to low graphics settings, and scenery... and fly mostly around her ( Portugal ) and Spain ... Just go abroad when in search of bad weather scenarios 🙂 and that's how I ended up flying around at EDDF the other day. My GPU is the gTX 960 4GB - I have very good results with it. Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
May 22, 20188 yr Author Hmm... My settings are (left handside GPU bound) "great" but not perfect - 1080gtx and (right handside CPU bound) okay. Additionally, I got 24Gb 1600Mhz RAM.
May 22, 20188 yr With such RAM and GPU, your PC should fly when you start XP11 🙂 Well, have you looked at the output logs to try to detect any problem ? Do you have XP11 on an SSD or HDD ? If on SSD, have you disabled file indexing on the sim partition ? Hyperthreading also comes to my mind... My i5 doesn't have it of course, but have you tried with HT enabled and disabled ? Edited May 22, 20188 yr by jcomm Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
May 23, 20188 yr Author I might have something here. Log-file gives me: "0:02:05.505 E/DSF: The DSF Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-3-network/Earth nav data/+40+000/+48+009.dsf has a number of problems with its road network: 195 doubled nodes, 0 direction reverses, 0 short segments, 102 roads deleted." I've deletet X-Europe and don't see any fps decrease... Have to verify that again, but problem MAY have been solved. Have you seen any problems with X-Europe and Ortho4XP? Cheers Chris
May 23, 20188 yr Well, I started using X-Europe last week only, but without any Orthos. It was already with X-Europe that I noticed the fps drop into the low 20s near EDDF. At LPPT where I do 90% of my sim flights in XP ( and pretty much all other sims 🙂 ) I noticed no drop, even when I set scenery complexity to Medium. So I guess it might really be X-Europe related ( ? ). I'll fwd a link of this thread to Tony - maybe he can decipher that log above 🙂 Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
May 23, 20188 yr Author I am sorry for the writing. English autocorrection is a bit tricky on a German phone. 🙂
May 23, 20188 yr :-) It would be a problem for me only if you wrote in your native language :-) Let's wait for Tony to glimpse this thread ;-) Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
May 26, 20188 yr Moderator I'm going to say it's xEurope. Especially in Germany, it can be very heavy in places, especially as X-Plane loads in areas or when panning around.
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