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GTN750 not picking up GS on RNAV/LPV approach (resolved)

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1 hour ago, flyerbra said:

Iam flying in Nav mode, choose an approach RNAV for SBSV. the aircraft follows the vectors good but when intercept the first waypoint, on the correct altitude for that approach it does not follow the patch.

This is typically what my question was about: what sequence of actions, what is happening, what was expected, summed up as: "what do you mean with" implicitly calling for "please detail".

reviewing the video now.

On 2/25/2019 at 3:49 AM, RXP said:

Hi, can you please all confirm which X-Plane version you are running?

Hi

 

It's not working in 11.26r2 or 11.32r2 in any aircraft. Does not follow GPS course. 

 

GS

OK, iam reading the manual and it says that in LNAV phase it don't have Laterial guidance .https://gyazo.com/abfd25ca8a6f09112705fa4dc5e6448e

The GTN on the video is TERM and then LNAV. If i uderstood the instructions well, on this phase i need to select the altitude by myself, right?

Ill repeat the test and check that...

@flyerbra LNAV means Lateral Navigation (ONLY). You won't have vertical guidance in this case. Vertical is LPV, LNAV+V and a couple few more typically.

Besides like I've recommended in the org forum, can you please:

  • Open the GTN Configuration Panel
  • Enable: Gauge Options | Advanced Settings | Link Simulator GPS Waypoints
  • Exit XP11 and restart.

And also tell me whether this option was already enabled otherwise?

Edited by RXP

4 hours ago, RXP said:

@flyerbra LNAV means Lateral Navigation (ONLY). You won't have vertical guidance in this case. Vertical is LPV, LNAV+V and a couple few more typically.

Besides like I've recommended in the org forum, can you please:

  • Open the GTN Configuration Panel
  • Enable: Gauge Options | Advanced Settings | Link Simulator GPS Waypoints
  • Exit XP11 and restart.

And also tell me whether this option was already enabled otherwise?

I dont know if it has any realtion with the case but using the Aerobask Skyview, on the Eclipse 550,very similar to the GTN750 i flew the same flight plan, same approach on the same airport and it worked good. GS was intercepted and the aircraft followed the ramp.

52 minutes ago, flyerbra said:

I dont know if it has any realtion with the case but using the Aerobask Skyview, on the Eclipse 550,very similar to the GTN750 i flew the same flight plan, same approach on the same airport and it worked good. GS was intercepted and the aircraft followed the ramp.

https://youtu.be/tdnYjhznzKk

Aerobask Skyview, on the Eclipse 550,very similar to the GTN750 i flew the same flight plan - worked great!

5 hours ago, RXP said:

Besides like I've recommended in the org forum, can you please:

  • Open the GTN Configuration Panel
  • Enable: Gauge Options | Advanced Settings | Link Simulator GPS Waypoints
  • Exit XP11 and restart.

And also tell me whether this option was already enabled otherwise?

Comparing the GTN to another navigation device won't work, because in the aircraft you're referring to it is all integrated. You can't use this other aircraft gauges in any aircraft.

Can you please just cross-check what I've asked you so that we can further help you out?

I would like to add an observation regarding the issue with the autopilot not working when selecting NAV.  When this happens, I have two buttons programmed on my joystick that I press.  The first is "select master device: default gps".  When pressed this unchecks the master device for GTN1.  The second is "select master device: Reality XP GPS 1".  Pressing this rechecks the master device.  When I press the first button to uncheck master device the course indicator shifts a couple of degrees counter clockwise.  The autopilot, when NAV is selected, turns to intercept the selected course.  After the course is intercepted I press the second button to recheck master device.  When I do this typically the course indicator does not adjust to the desired course, but stays a few degrees counter clockwise and as the desired course is intercepted the course indicator gradually adjusts to the desired course.  Very weird.  I just wanted to point out this observation. 

Today I was troubleshooting my XP11 which has recently been crashing a lot.  All the log.txt file indicates is that the application has failed.  I disabled all of my addons and deleted all AI aircraft, flew a few flights and XP did not crash.  I enabled some addons and  it crashed again.  I then tried flying different aircraft than I normally fly as I usually fly the aircraft that support the Reality XP GTN 750.  Those aircraft that had an FMS or GNS did not crash XP11.  I uninstalled the GTN trainer software and the Reality XP software, rebooted and reinstalled them.  I now have all plugins enabled and am still doing test flights.  All have been successful with aircraft that use the GTN 750.  The reinstall of the software however did not fix the issue with the autopilot not engaging in NAV.  The really weird thing is it only happens with the Carenado S550 Citation II and Carenado Saab 340.  I have the PC12, C340 II, 690B Turbo Commander, DO 228 and they work just fine with the GTN 750 and NAV.  So this is really strange.

Another thing I just noticed when flying the Carenado Saab 340.  The aircraft reached a turn point and the autopilot went into a turn.  In this case a left turn.  The course indicator started gradually turning clockwise, and after about 100 degrees of needle movement it snapped to the next course.

Edited by jfwharton

23 minutes ago, RXP said:

Comparing the GTN to another navigation device won't work, because in the aircraft you're referring to it is all integrated. You can't use this other aircraft gauges in any aircraft.

Can you please just cross-check what I've asked you so that we can further help you out?

Once i open the settings the game crash. Iam really lost now, i just bought it 2 days ago, everthing is updated...no clue.

@jfwharton Hello, can you please try to do an approach RNAV with the PC12+GTN750?? My nav is working good but the approeach RNAV is not tracking the glide slope!

Edited by RXP

I will try doing an RNAV in the PC12.  I also have found that not all RNAV approaches have glidepaths  so when doing some RNAV approaches I have to manually descend, others will capture a glidepath.  Let me try a few and see what I find.  Did you have one in particular you would like me to try?

4 minutes ago, jfwharton said:

I will try doing an RNAV in the PC12.  I also have found that not all RNAV approaches have glidepaths  so when doing some RNAV approaches I have to manually descend, others will capture a glidepath.  Let me try a few and see what I find.  Did you have one in particular you would like me to try?

SBSV if possible RNAV RW 10 - Thank you so much! This Procedure i can do with the aerobask instrumente and with "gidepath" but not with the PC12+GTN750

Edited by flyerbra

14 minutes ago, flyerbra said:

Once i open the settings the game crash. Iam really lost now, i just bought it 2 days ago, everthing is updated...no clue.

You most likely are using a post-processing effect plugin (reshade?) and this plugin is too greedy trying to post process the Configuration Panel window. It is documented in the forum and we'll make sure to add a note about this in the User's Manual with the next update.

@jfwharton thank you for the detailed information.

We've been debugging the Saab 340, the Citation II and this afternoon the PC-12. We can't fail the first two, we're not sure about the PC-12 but we've tried a few settings and this was flying the RNAV perfectly.

Besides do you have the VCDI showing up in the PC-12 because I don't see it although it flies the LNAV+V. Besides, the PC-12 autopilot is always HDG+NAV and we can't make it NAV only. Is this the same on your end?

The common thing between the Saab 340 and the Citation II is that both have the default FMS in the cockpit and I suspect more and more this is the culprit which prevents the 'override_gps' dataref to actually work as intended. I've removed any instance of the FMS in the Saab 340 using plane maker then I've reverted to GTN v2.5.13 and it flew perfectly (remember v2.5.14 had a specific workaround implemented just because of the Saab 340 and Citation II reports on the forum).

I suspect the default FMS preventing our plugin to work as before is new to the last few XP11.31+ versions and probably related to the new autopilot code they have added in the simulator, in turn breaking backward compatibility, but this will need more test and a lot of communication with XPL devs.

 

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