Carob

Trying RC - Few questions

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Hello.

I'm giving RC a try in FS9 and have a couple of quick questions.

1)  I'm not seeing in the manual anywhere that you are supposed to disable the built-in ATC communication.  The first thing I tried was tuning to the weather briefing through the RC menu and I'm hearing both RC weather and the built-in briefing.

2) Am I supposed to have the AdvDisp option in the Modules menu?  According to the manual I should but I only have FSUIPC (which I had before).  There were no issues with the install, that I know of, but I don't have that option there.

3) How do I get the RC menu to stay closed and only open when I want to see it?  I don't see that in the menu either.

Thanks!

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Carob, it’s been over 13 years since I ran RC4 in FS9 so you’ll understand my memory is a little sketchy.

Turn FS9 ATC volume to zero. Don’t disable the option.

As for your other questions I suggest you refer to JD’s locked topics for help or search the forum for advdisp.

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Why turn to zero and not just uncheck the box?  What's the difference?

I have looked at the locked topics but don't see anything pertaining to my questions.  Am I missing something?

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Because it could cause FS9 to crash. I have given you the solution so why question it?

You are a tiny minority of people running a 16 year-old sim. Your best bet is to buy FSX Steam Edition if your computer can run it.

Or, change to P3D if your computer meets the minimum specs. Maybe others running FS9 can assist. I’m afraid I can’t.

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Because I like to understand why.  Not sure how a built-in option would cause it to crash.

RC 4.3 was designed to work with FS9 so people must know.  So, I guess if there's anyone here who can answer the other questions I would greatly appreciate.  Whether you are running FS9 or not.

Thanks!

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If you’re using RC4 there is no need to hear default ATC. As I remember it people were having problems with ATC Sound deselected so the advice was to keep it enabled and reduce volume to zero.

Most who have RC4 have moved on to better simulators. You could be waiting a long time. What is the spec of your PC?

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With current FSUIPC that includes the menu display funtion so no need to install advdisp dll.

I am not sure in the free fsuipc license included with RC contains he function to turn the display on and off. If you look at the advanced user guide for fsuipc in its folder you can assign a hot key to toggle it on and off, however as soon as ATC "talks" it will reappear. There is also an RC function called IFR training that will turn off the menu display as I recall.

 

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So you're saying I need the paid version of FSUIPC to be able to close the RC window when not in use?  That's a bit crazy.  Or am I not deciphering you correctly?

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Okay, so I think I've figured out a couple of things and am on the right track.

However, it seems like the vast majority of the AI are on the default frequencies instead of the RC frequencies and I am not hearing much of anything.  Even aircraft right next to me.  I can see that they are tuned to different frequencies and if I turn on the default ATC I can hear their communication.  RC is supposed to be handling them as well, correct?  If so, does anyone know why I'm seeing what I'm seeing?  I mean I hear occasional stuff but not even close to the number that should be there.

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23 minutes ago, Carob said:

Yep.  It copied the files to C:\Program Files (x86)\rcv4\data.

I think the frequencies are held in F4.csv. Use NotePad++ to view it and compare to the defaults.

Incidentally, it’s best to install RC4 to C:\ and avoid Program Files.

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I can do that, but how is it going to help?  I guess my point is that it doesn't seem like RC is making the AI be on the frequencies they should be so they are using what's built into the sim instead.  Either that or RC is giving AI one listing and me another.

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SoCal Approach areas.  Around the San Diego area for sure.

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2 minutes ago, Carob said:

SoCal Approach areas.  Around the San Diego area for sure.

I need an ICAO and whether it’s Clearance, Ground or Tower.

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11 minutes ago, Carob said:

KSAN Approach and/or Departure should do it.

These are the frequencies I have...

KSAN,San Diego Intl,134.80,125.90,123.90,118.30,122.95,0,119.60,119.60

ident, name, atis, clearance, ground, tower, unicom, multicom, approach, departure

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Looking at a different area and it doesn't seem to matter where I am.  If I compare the freq that RC gives me to what I would be on using the default ATC it seems to always be different.  At least for Approach/Departure anyway.

Are you looking in the f4.csv file for those?  If so, mine looks like
KSANSan Diego Intl-Lindbergh134.8 125.9 123.9 118.3 122.95 125.3 124.35

Why would they be different?  I even reran the Rebuild Scenery DB thing.

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I'm noticing that the f4.csv file that's in the FS9 folder doesn't match the one that in the RC "data" folder even though RC was the one that put them there.  What's up with that?

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6 minutes ago, Carob said:

I'm noticing that the f4.csv file that's in the FS9 folder doesn't match the one that in the RC "data" folder even though RC was the one that put them there.  What's up with that?

Probably because of restrictions with RC4 being in Program Files(x86).

Make sure you run with admin privileges but it’s best to move RC4 as I said earlier.

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6 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Probably because of restrictions with RC4 being in Program Files(x86).

Make sure you run with admin privileges but it’s best to move RC4 as I said earlier.

It's already installed, too late now.

Although it shouldn't matter on Win 7 anyway.

Once all of those files are created in the FS9 directory do they need to stay there?  Or do they only need to exist in the RC "data" directory?

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No, it’s not too late. Move it out of Program Files(x86). It will still work. It will prove if it’s the cause of your problem.

They don’t need to reside in FS9 but they’re not doing any harm.

 

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5 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

No, it’s not too late. Move it out of Program Files(x86). It will still work. It will prove if it’s the cause of your problem.

They don’t need to reside in FS9 but they’re not doing any harm.

 

RC is also giving me Seattle Center of 131.0 and that freq isn't in either file.  Is that possible?

And when bringing up the default ATC to see what it wants to use, that's 128.15.

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5 minutes ago, Carob said:

RC is also giving me Seattle Center of 131.0 and that freq isn't in either file.  Is that possible?

And when bringing up the default ATC to see what it wants to use, that's 128.15.

If you’re not going to do as I suggest there’s no point continuing this conversation. The f4.csv file is not being copied across. That’s your problem. A little appreciation wouldn’t go amiss. I’m just another user like you.

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