Still working on the trial and getting a feel for how the ATC works. Just wondering if ATC ever corrects you or reprimands you when you blatantly disregard their instructions. For example if you fly into controlled airspace without being cleared or being in the wrong pattern or taxing down the wrong taxiways. For example I was flying into a controlled airfield and requested a full stop landing on a 21R. ATC responded: "Baron Five Sierra XRay  Expect to enter on a Right downwind for Runway Two One Right. call downwind". Instead, I disregarded their instruction and flew a straight in approach. I landed and reported to Tower that I was clear of runway. Tower just welcomed me and told me to contact Ground. When I checked out the log file there was a ton of error messages, one per second, following the ATC directive to enter the Right downwind pattern. The errors all appeared to be exactly the same,

Error in ATCFlt.OnSecondTimerFired: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at P2A_2018.modP2ADataGlobal.PositionIsPastSegment(GeoPoint Pos, FPWpt Wpt1, FPWpt Wpt2)
   at P2A_2018.ATCFlt.c05967a6f758bc7422757832c8e5dc1da()
   at P2A_2018.ATCFlt.onSecondTimerFired() : 09/02/2019 20:56:12

It appears that it was looking for me in the pattern and was detecting that I was out of position. The errors finally stopped when when I was about to land. If I am correct about these error messages in the log file being related to pattern position, why is the pattern position tracked if ATC never tells me I am out of position. Not a big deal but just curious and trying to determine the depth of this application. 

For the record I intended to fly a straight in approach but was fumbling around looking for the straight in request and couldn't find it, so settled for just the full stop request, and they of course directed me into the pattern when I was headed directly for the runway.

So far I have been enjoying trying it out. 

No, ATC does not catch or reprimand all errors.  That is on the list for future enhancements to catch and notify for infractions like you performed.   It does notify if you land on the wrong runway or if you get off course on an IFR flight. 

The error message you found has nothing to do with the pattern.  If you email me the log file from this flight it will help me fix the bug that caused the error.

Thanks,

Dave

12 hours ago, clr100 said:

Still working on the trial and getting a feel for how the ATC works. Just wondering if ATC ever corrects you or reprimands you when you blatantly disregard their instructions. For example if you fly into controlled airspace without being cleared or being in the wrong pattern or taxing down the wrong taxiways. For example I was flying into a controlled airfield and requested a full stop landing on a 21R. ATC responded: "Baron Five Sierra XRay  Expect to enter on a Right downwind for Runway Two One Right. call downwind". Instead, I disregarded their instruction and flew a straight in approach. I landed and reported to Tower that I was clear of runway. Tower just welcomed me and told me to contact Ground. When I checked out the log file there was a ton of error messages, one per second, following the ATC directive to enter the Right downwind pattern. The errors all appeared to be exactly the same,

Error in ATCFlt.OnSecondTimerFired: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at P2A_2018.modP2ADataGlobal.PositionIsPastSegment(GeoPoint Pos, FPWpt Wpt1, FPWpt Wpt2)
   at P2A_2018.ATCFlt.c05967a6f758bc7422757832c8e5dc1da()
   at P2A_2018.ATCFlt.onSecondTimerFired() : 09/02/2019 20:56:12

It appears that it was looking for me in the pattern and was detecting that I was out of position. The errors finally stopped when when I was about to land. If I am correct about these error messages in the log file being related to pattern position, why is the pattern position tracked if ATC never tells me I am out of position. Not a big deal but just curious and trying to determine the depth of this application. 

For the record I intended to fly a straight in approach but was fumbling around looking for the straight in request and couldn't find it, so settled for just the full stop request, and they of course directed me into the pattern when I was headed directly for the runway.

So far I have been enjoying trying it out. 

If you wanted to get reprimanded or just berated in general, get married and then spend you time engaged in flight sim!  Or fly on VATSIM and ignore instructions during a large event... depending on the controller, they'll make you feel like you're lower than whale excrement!  LOL!  That's a truth based joke... all my flights are online!

 

 

Dave-P2A,

Great to know you are looking at it for the future. 

So far I am liking what I see, particularly your support and desire to improve the product. I will send you the log file with all the errors. 

 

DaveCT,

LOL. I know exactly what you mean. No, I don't want a real reprimand, just a virtual reprimand. In truth, it would be nice to know when I am doing things incorrectly so that I can correct my errors. But I know that involves a lot more intelligent ATC and more coding. There are probably an infinite number of scenarios to cover, but it would be cool.

 

Chris