Hi Folks,

The weather was kind of rough last weekend where I was trialing P2A - I tried for the life of me - to get a deviation to get around some cells... Nothing worked... Now - I've done some more reading and there does appear to be a "DTO" request - but in order to use it - I have to go into the P2A interface to set this up ? I was trying to do the DTO just with the verbal commands and recognition just went out to lunch... Is this the only way to deviate for weather ?

Personally - I've been trialing P2A with the P2A interface on a second screen - minimized - out of my field of view - the more things we can do without having to stop flying and go to the P2A interface - the better... I find it a distraction and I don't want more information presented to me - than I would know in the cockpit - like the destination approach in the flight plan...

So - when I tried to do the DTO without the P2A interface change - we're supposed to spell out the point of the DTO - correct ? Papa Tango Whiskey - - - no matter how clearly I spoke - it would not recognize the approved format - I have done a bunch of "voice training" - is there a way to specifically "train" the alphabet ?

Any input appreciated - thanks...

Regards,
Scott

The DTO works with just the voice, as long as it can understand you.  No need to update the P2A UI as once ATC approves the Direct To, it updates its copy of the Flight Plan.

I have added Phonetics Alpha/Numeric Speech training in the next update.

Dave

 

Edited September 7, 20196 yr by Dave-Pilot2ATC

@Dave-Pilot2ATC

Hi Dave,

Awesome - thanks so much - I was truly enunciating SOOO clearly - reading from the grammar helper  - I really thought it was because the DTO was out of context - due to not changing my flight plan in the interface... You should have seen the mangled recognition every time I said "foxtrot" - LOL...

Just to be clear - I should be able to DTO to any navigation point in the dbase - airports - vor - ndb - checkpoints - both on or off my flight plan ? 

Regards,
Scott

Edited September 7, 20196 yr by scottb613

Hi Dave,

One other question - after the deviation - can you get P2A to get you back on your flight plan ?

Thanks...

Regards,
Scott

Yes, you should be able to pick any Navaid, etc for the DirectTo.

You can play around with the DirectTo in the interface to get a feel for it. You must be connected to the SIM. 

• Enter a Flight Plan
• Press the DirectTo button
• Select FPLN, APT, VOR, NDB, INT as the Direct To Type
• Select the desired waypoint
• See the change in the flight plan on the small map
• Press the Clear button to remove the change and try something different 

For weather deviation, picking an INTersection or Navaid is your best bet.

You can then know what to ask for verbally when flying.

Your flight plan is amended, so just follow the new flight plan and you'll get back on the subsequent legs on your own.  This is normally used to avoid an out of the way leg, etc.

It is on the list of future efforts to add a diversion around weather interaction with ATC, which would include a way to get back to the original track.

Dave

Hi Dave.

Tried this out yesterday due to heavy weather and I was wondering: do heading directions work, too? Like „cleared heading 120 to circumvent weather, then resume navigation“?

I tried the direct to yesterday and it didn’t get the last digit from my request.

„Flight xy request direct to Delta Hotel 6 5 6“ (which was actually a point on a STAR)

But the answer was „Sorry, Flight xy, cannot find Delta Hotel 6 5.“ so the Last „6“ was missing. I thought the problem was because it was a STAR-point  and no VOR, NDB or AIRPORT or something, but the day before yesterday it worked great during another STAR. 
 

Perfect (at leat in my imagination) would be to go to a certain heading and then use the Direct to, to resume own navigation. Or does this work and I haven’t found out yet?

Thank you!

-J

Edited June 4, 20215 yr by John Alexander

Heading deviations are not supported yet.  

DirectTo points in a STAR or SID should work.  Generally, if the DirectTo is a point with a valid identifer in the Flight Plan, P2A can find it and amend the Flt Plan to let you fly it.

As a last resort, until we get deviations, you could cancel IFR to keep the controller quiet while you deviate, then when you get back on course, disconnect/reconnect from the sim, File the flight plan and then make an initial call like, "Center, <callsign> at flight level 340."  That should get you back on track and ATC will be back in business.

Dave

On 6/5/2021 at 1:26 AM, Dave-Pilot2ATC said:

Heading deviations are not supported yet.  

Thank you very much for your answer.

"Not yet" sounds as if it could come in the future? :) 

Had plenty of opportunities to try this and although I have recognition trained to death (I have used Voice Attack for Elite Dangerous intensely), the program sometimes doesn't recognize me saying 'Alpha'. I don't know if there is an option to shorten the process, but when ATC doesn't understand me, it answers in a very correct (and extensive) way, that they are sorry and if I could state my intentions again, and so on. Is there a way to tell P2A to simply play a certain sound if it didn't understand? Just to try it again quickly.

Love your program!

-J