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Incorrect AFCAD Referencing

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Hi Bryan/Manuel,

Thoroughly enjoying the new UGCX however I'm running into a problem that I couldn't find any other posts for. I'm running P3D v4.5.

At two airports so far, UGCX seems to be referencing an AFCAD with a lower priority meaning pushbacks, gates and the map don't reference the actual scenery in use. It seems to be mainly related to ORBX scenery (so this may be a question for them). Here are my two examples:

  1. Los Angeles - Using FSDT KLAX however UGCX used the AFCAD from ORBX Southern California Region (I've no deactivated those files as I realised I forgot to when I updated my sim a while ago - following compatibility instructions in the ORBX forum)
  2. Sonoma (KSTS) - Using ORBX KSTS however UGCX is referencing the AFCAD from ORBX Northern California Region

I can obviously keep deactivating the lower priority AFCADs but I'm wondering given the lack of other user reports, whether this is indeed correct behavior of UGCX or if my installation is not functioning correctly?

I can confirm the scenery indexer has run. Are you able to advise if what I'm seeing is correct behavior or if there's something I've missed?

Cheers, Haydn

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Hey pilot87,

15 hours ago, pilot87 said:

Los Angeles - Using FSDT KLAX however UGCX used the AFCAD from ORBX Southern California Region (I've no deactivated those files as I realised I forgot to when I updated my sim a while ago - following compatibility instructions in the ORBX forum)

Try going to FSDT KLAX again, then try to open the UGCX map, and capture the layout, try to post the image here. Also try then to copy and past the UGCX log to see in detail what the module was reading, after it read the scenery files, thru the log we will see exactly what it saw. Also, if you could force to rebuild the scenery index prior the test, it would be better to see why it took the scenery from ORBX and not the one from FSDT. If the log is too big, try zipping it prior posting it. Let's try to analyze the scenerio first to see what happened.

Cheers,

Manuel

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Or just deactivate your duplicate airport files. Having duplicates WILL cause problems.

i7-13700KF, 32gb DDR4 3200,  RTX 4080, Win 11, MSFS 2024

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Thanks Manuel,

I'll do that once I get home from work. For what it's worth, I read through the log file and that's how I found it was referencing lower priority AFCADs. I haven't had a chance to test KLAX yet but I did deactivate those duplicates as I'd missed that step as required by ORBX/FSDT when upgrading my PC.

 

5 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

Or just deactivate your duplicate airport files. Having duplicates WILL cause problems.

Thanks Dave, I am aware of this however I'm wondering how deep you have to go. Technically speaking you will always have at least one duplicate due to the base architecture being very difficult to isolate. They however tend not to cause conflicts in this instance. I'm relatively certain there'd be a lot of people who haven't deactivated all of those AFCADs located in the region and global backs (there are thousands!) and yet I couldn't find any other reports referencing what I was seeing. That's what led me to the question of "is the program behaving the way it was intended or do I have an issue with my installation?"

2 hours ago, pilot87 said:

Technically speaking you will always have at least one duplicate due to the base architecture being very difficult to isolate. They however tend not to cause conflicts in this instance.

 Correct, the base layer included with the sim don't need to be removed as they don't cause conflicts. FTX regions, AI packs that include airport files etc however do need to addressed by the users.

i7-13700KF, 32gb DDR4 3200,  RTX 4080, Win 11, MSFS 2024

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1 hour ago, Dave_YVR said:

 Correct, the base layer included with the sim don't need to be removed as they don't cause conflicts. FTX regions, AI packs that include airport files etc however do need to addressed by the users.

Understood, thanks Dave. Will look into that. What exactly do you normally disable? APX and CVX?

 The CVX file is meant to go alongside the APX file that came with it. Usually its best to disable both, but sometimes it can lead to anomalies around the airport in which case you might look at keeping the cvx file active to see if that helps.

i7-13700KF, 32gb DDR4 3200,  RTX 4080, Win 11, MSFS 2024

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Thank you Dave - very much appreciated, mostly because it reminded me I hadn't done a lot of the compatibility fixes I needed to do!

Notwithstanding that, attached are the log and map to show what I'm seeing in the sim. For the purposes of the test, I restored the ORBX files related to KLAX mentioned by Dave.

Log:

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------------------------ INITIALIZATING FS MODULE ------------------------ 
            It's a supported Flight Simulator:        [11]...
            Hooking to the Flight Simulator's MAIN window procedure...
            Registering CUSTOM windows messages...
            Reading the INITIALIZATION file...
            Getting the FSX.CFG or PREPAR3D.CFG file path...
            Reading settings from the FSX.CFG or PREPAR3D.CFG file located here: 
            C:\Users\haydn\AppData\Roaming\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Prepar3D.cfg 
            The Flight Simulator's frame rate LIMIT is 0 fps...
            Creating our timer...
            Current language ID:    [409]    
            Current sound pack:         US        
            Retrieving UGCX module's version...
            Running UGCX module's version: Version: 1.3.0.0
            Attempting to connect to the Flight Simulator...
            CONNECTED! to Flight Simulator...
            Mapping Flight Simulator's events...
            Setting up data definitions...
            Initializating scenery reader system...
            The scenery index MUST BE CREATED!, because it doesn't exists...
            Building the scenery index files...
            Deleting the old scenery index files...
            Reading the SCENERY.CFG file, located in: 
            C:\ProgramData\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Scenery.cfg  
            Reading the SCENERY_ADD-ONS.XML file, located in: 
            C:\ProgramData\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\scenery_add-ons.xml  
            Sorting the scenery areas list in DESCENDING order...
            Reading ALL the scenery areas...
            Saving Scenery Areas to Disk...
            Saving Scenery Files to Disk...
            Unloading the scenery index from memory...
            Updating the INITIALIZATION file...
            Creating aircraft's profile FONT...
            Module's initialization sequence COMPLETED!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
--------------------------- LOCATION CHANGED --------------------------- 
--------------------------- AIRCRAFT LOADED --------------------------- 
            PMDG model detected: 737 
            Aircraft.cfg file path: F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\SimObjects\Airplanes\PMDG 737-800NGX WL\aircraft.cfg 
--------------------------- LOCATION CHANGED --------------------------- 
            Aircraft's Model Name: Boeing 737-823 American N959NN 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
----------------------- UGCX API ----------------------- 
        Registering API variables...
----------------------- LOADING LANGUAGE AND SOUND PACK ----------------------- 
        Loading CURRENT Language and Sound Pack...
        Stopping the voice recognition's engine...
        The voice recognition's engine has been STOPPED...
        Stopping Text-To-Speech...
        Text-To-Speech has been STOPPED...
        UGCX    - CURRENT language's ID:    [409]    
        UGCX    - CURRENT sound pack:         US        
        WINDOWS - CURRENT language's ID:    0x0409    
        UGCX    - CURRENT language's Name:    [English – United States]    
        Reading all WORDS, PHRASES, VISUAL TEXTS, AIRPORT'S AREAS and ALTITUDES from the LANGUAGE initialization file...
        Reading the REGIONAL sound packs INITIALIZATION file...
        Loading the language's DEFAULT sounds pack...
                Loading CURRENT sounds set...
                Attempting to load the following sound pack files:
                        F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Ultimate Ground Crew X\SoundSets\US.xgs 
                        F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Ultimate Ground Crew X\SoundSets\US.xwb 
                        F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Ultimate Ground Crew X\SoundSets\US.xsb 
                Sounds set LOADED SUCCESSFULLY!...
                Creating and initializating the stream...
                Setting the master volume...
        Starting the speech recognition's engine...
                Starting the voice recognition's engine...
                Language ID: 409...
                Creating the ISpRecognizer object...
                Creating the ISpRecoContext object...
                Defining the SR notification callback...
                Setting SR event types...
                Creating the ISpAudio object...
                Setting the input stream for the SR...
                Activating the SR engine...
                Creating the ISpRecoGrammar object...
                Loading the specified CFG grammar file...
                Activating the rule ID: 1...
                The voice recognition's engine has been STARTED...
        Starting the Text-To-Speech engine...
        Starting the Text-To-Speech engine...
                Text-To-Speech has been STARTED...
----------------------- LOADING SCENERY AND GRAMMAR ----------------------- 
        Creating and executing the WORKER thread...
        Starting the WORKER thread...
        Loading and updating the scenery cache's data...
        Searching for the NEAREST airport...
        The NEAREST airport's ID:        KLAX 
        Located at the Region's ID:         
        The NEAREST airport's BGL file's path is: 
        F:\P3D External\Orbx Library\p3dv4\NA Southern California\ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_NA_SCA05_SCENERY\scenery\ADE_FTX_SCA_KLAX.bgl 
        Searching for the CURRENT parking's information...
        Unloading scenery index...
        Triggering CUSTOM event...
        Loading the sound pack based on the CURRENT region and language: [US]... 
                Loading CURRENT sounds set...
                Attempting to load the following sound pack files:
                        F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Ultimate Ground Crew X\SoundSets\US.xgs 
                        F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Ultimate Ground Crew X\SoundSets\US.xwb 
                        F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Ultimate Ground Crew X\SoundSets\US.xsb 
                Sounds set LOADED SUCCESSFULLY!...
                Creating and initializating the stream...
                Setting the master volume...
        Loading the speech recognition's grammar...
        DEACTIVATING the grammar... 
        Adding ALL airport's items to the loaded XML grammar... 
        Adding ALL dialogues to the loaded XML grammar... 
        Commit grammar changes... 
        ACTIVATING the grammar... 
        Loading process has been COMPLETED!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
------------------------ SIMULATION STARTED ------------------------ 
            Adding our module's entry to the ADDONS menu entry...
        Starting the Text-To-Speech engine...
                Text-To-Speech has been STARTED...
--------------------------- AIRCRAFT LOADED --------------------------- 
            PMDG model detected: 737 
            Aircraft.cfg file path: F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\SimObjects\Airplanes\PMDG 737-800NGX WL\aircraft.cfg 
            Aircraft's Model Name: Boeing 737-823 American N959NN 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
------------------------ SIMULATION STOPPED ------------------------ 
        Stopping Text-To-Speech...
        Text-To-Speech has been STOPPED...
        Stopping the voice recognition's engine...
        The voice recognition's engine has been STOPPED...

Picture (hosted via my google drive):

Thanks, Haydn 

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You could try also setting FSDT KLAX in a higher layer than ORBX, in your scenery.cfg or like in the scenery add-ons cfg too....can you post your scenery-addons.cfg file? So we can check at which layer is located FSDT KLAX and ORBX KLAX

Edited by Manuel82

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Hi Manuel,

I tried that - same result. Not sure exactly which file you're after but I've included scenery-addons.xml (couldn't find a .cfg one):

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

<SimBase.Document Type="AceXML" version="4,5">
    <Descr>AceXML Document</Descr>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\FlyTampa\Toronto\scenery_LC</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-1261793223</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\FlyTampa\Toronto\scenery</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>141050575</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\FlyTampa\StMaarten\world</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>1697306436</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\FlyTampa\StMaarten\scenery</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>1197242339</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\FlyTampa\StBartholomew\world</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>937881099</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\FlyTampa\StBartholomew\scenery</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>449693790</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\FlyTampa\Saba\world</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>1325556980</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\FlyTampa\Saba\scenery</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-2137940467</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\FlyTampa\Montreal\scenery</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>1186982304</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\FlyTampa\Boston\scenery</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>996657591</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\FlyTampa\LasVegas\scenery</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-552146651</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\Payware Airports\Adelaide X</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>2101041868</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\Addon Scenery\Auckland NZAA</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-724774173</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\Addon Scenery\New Caledonia\Caledonie_base</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>1629278869</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Flightbeam\Flightbeam - KSFOHD\scenery</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>1123342783</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Flightbeam\Flightbeam - NZWN\scenery</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-1581734182</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\FSJ - Hawaii Photoreal\FSJ - Hawaiian Airports by George Keogh</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-1361226647</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\Addon Scenery\La Tontouta NWWW\NWWW - Airport</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-347461962</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\Addon Scenery\La Tontouta NWWW\NWWW - Height</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>1622689471</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\Addon Scenery\Lady_Musgrave</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-1024089470</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\Payware Airports\Nxgn Simulations\Nadi X\Nadi-Exclusions</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>92193139</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\Payware Airports\Nxgn Simulations\Nadi X\Nadi-NFFN</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-1482324792</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\Payware Airports\Nxgn Simulations\Nadi X\Nadi-Terrain</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-1921980196</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\Addon Scenery\Paris V1.0</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-2130899093</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\T2G\KMCO\KMCO-TERRAIN</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>629690831</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\T2G\KMCO\KMCO</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-1406702978</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\T2G\VHHH\VHHH-TERRAIN</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-1459857609</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
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        <Path>F:\P3D External\T2G\VHHH\VHHH</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>1402612420</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\T2G\TAXI2GATE-EDDM P3Dv4 P3Dv4\data\EDDM-TERRAIN</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-945392613</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\T2G\TAXI2GATE-EDDM P3Dv4 P3Dv4\data\EDDM</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>1029728135</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\T2G\TAXI2GATE-EDDM P3Dv4 P3Dv4\data\EDDM-LC-ELV</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>332977554</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\T2G\TAXI2GATE-LFPG P3Dv4\data\LFPG-TERRAIN</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>1345751694</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\T2G\TAXI2GATE-LFPG P3Dv4\data\LFPG</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-1441372269</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\T2G\TAXI2GATE-LFPG P3Dv4\data\LFPG-LAYERUP</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-1475621149</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\UK2000\UK2000 Common Library</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-203814903</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\UK2000\UK2000 Edinburgh Xtreme</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>624244555</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\UK2000\UK2000 Gatwick Xtreme</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>461958340</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\UK2000\UK2000 Glasgow Xtreme</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-1112822587</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\UK2000\UK2000 London City Xtreme</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-1627534127</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\LatinVFR\Orange County - John Wayne\Scenery</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-90950651</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\LatinVFR\San Juan_TJSJ</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>787401611</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Addon Scenery\Miami City X</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>918302946</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Addon Scenery\New York City X</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>2067265949</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Addon Scenery\NY Airports v2 X</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-1250498042</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Addon Scenery\Seattle X</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>1948169936</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Addon Scenery\Washington X</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>1425552809</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\FSDT\Addon Manager\FsDreamTeam\CYVR\Scenery</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>1686991877</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\FSDT\Addon Manager\FsDreamTeam\Exclude\Scenery</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>2046362225</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
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        <Path>F:\P3D External\Orbx Library\p3dv4\YPLC Port Lincoln Airport\ORBX\FTX_AU\FTXAA_YPLC</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-1277759874</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\Orbx Library\p3dv4\YPMQ Port Macquarie Airport\ORBX\FTX_AU\FTXAA_YPMQ</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>2022207357</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\Orbx Library\p3dv4\YSCB Canberra Airport\ORBX\FTX_AU\FTXAA_YSCB</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-2079819273</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\Orbx Library\p3dv4\YSCH Coffs Harbour Airport\ORBX\FTX_AU\FTXAA_YSCH</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>45359035</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\Orbx Library\p3dv4\YWOL Wollongong Airport\ORBX\FTX_AU\FTXAA_YWOL</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-1034338511</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\Orbx Library\p3dv4\YBBN Brisbane International Airport\ORBX\FTX_AU\FTXAA_YBBN</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-451047232</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\Orbx Library\p3dv4\YSTW Tamworth Airport\ORBX\FTX_AU\FTXAA_YSTW</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>-217540229</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\Orbx Library\p3dv4\Cityscape Honolulu\ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_AA_Honolulu</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>1026909934</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
</SimBase.Document>

Is this the one you're after?

Cheers!

  • Commercial Member

Hey pilot87,

Sorry by the delayed answer, I has been a bit busy yesterday.

Okay, just to explain a little bit about how UGCX recognizes which scenery area has top priority about others:

In FSX and P3Dv1,2,3, the main file that dictated the scenery layering priority was: scenery.cfg. However from P3Dv4, the scenery.cfg file doesn't have add-on scenery areas listed, but only the default scenery areas. Add-on scenery layering is controlled in another way. UGCX reads both scenery.cfg and scenery-addons.xml, HOWEVER, there is a third file, which I don't remmember, I think it's package xml file, that ACTUALLY controls the layering, I must modify UGCX to make it read THAT file, but because we were in a hurry to release a stable version: v1.3, I made it to only read scenery.cfg and scenery-addons.xml. I still know that this must be fixed, however, I'll continue explaining how UGCX reads those files. The UGCX module reads the entire scenery-addons.xml file in order from top to down, the <AddOn.SceneryComponent> sections that are at the bottom of that file have top priority over those at the top of the file. From what I see in your scenery-addons.xml file, the ORBX scenery areas/sections has TOP priority over FSDT KLAX files. I know the intention is not to have the user modify this file, but if you really want to experiment modifying that file, try to make a backup of it first. Then try moving this section:

On 11/1/2019 at 3:05 AM, pilot87 said:

    <AddOn.SceneryComponent>
        <Path>F:\P3D External\FSDT\Addon Manager\FsDreamTeam\KLAX_V2\Scenery</Path>
        <SceneryCRC>812882462</SceneryCRC>
    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>

...to the very bottom of the scenery-addons.xml file, but before of the:

On 11/1/2019 at 3:05 AM, pilot87 said:

    </AddOn.SceneryComponent>
</SimBase.Document>

So to UGCX module it looks to be TOP priority over all others. I know this is not a definitive solution, but it's a work around to temporary fix the issue. Then delete the indexes files located in:

C:\Users\<Your username>\AppData\Roaming\Ultimate Ground Crew X\Scenery\P3D\

...to force UGCX to rebuild the scenery indexes.

Cheers,

Manuel

Edited by Manuel82

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  • Author

No worries Manuel, completely understood. We all get busy and sometimes there's higher priorities, no need to apologise.

Thanks for all that information, that really comes back to my original question of whether what I was seeing was correct behavior of UGCX or if I was seeing something that was incorrect. If I understand correctly, as of build 1.3 this is correct behavior based on the way the scenery indexer currently works?

Between Dave's suggestions and your fantastic information you've just provided (which really helped to consolidate my understanding of scenery layering under the new .xml method!!) I certainly have some solutions (even if only temporary).

Thankyou for all your assistance!

Cheers, Haydn

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