I hope this wasn't asked before, I've searched both on google and on here.

Anyway, I have noticed that rxp is much more smooth ingame with 6.21. Prepar3d runs at 60 fps with both 6.21 and the latest trainer, so it shouldn't be sim issue. Has anyone noticed this? 

Also, the latest Garmin trainer itself runs horribly slow too. Like 2 fps at most. Maybe this Garmin's fault.

 

I'll try to stay on 6.21 if I manage to slow flightplan issue. (The path given on manual doesn't work for some reason.)

Hi,

Are you using any 'tool' like process lasso to change the simulator priority and/or affinity?

The trainer 6.21 is indeed a little bit lighter but not this much. However the latest 6.62.x is able to use all cores in a much better way. You might want to try changing the RXP GTN CpuAffinity to 'all cores' like it is described in the RXP GTN User's Manual.

I didn't want to create another thread for this, the latest update broke 6.21 for me somehow.

https://imgur.com/a/8SDwhYv

Click regions are messed up, my cursor is actually somewhere around where I have highlighted. Any ideas?

 

By the way, I didn't touch rxp gtn's cpu affinity, I still have no idea why the newer trainer has worse performance on my pc. Another laptop in the house with a core2duo and an onboard gpu runs it without issues.

Have you tried the troubleshooting section in the User's Manual, especially the chapter about integrated vs discrete graphics card? Does it apply to your desktop?

As for the cursor, there must be something different involved here because the mouse coordinates the gauge is consuming and passing to the GTN are the coordinates P3D is giving us like with any other gauge.

If you resize the gauge window is the click region proportionally adjusting to the gauge window?

It remains proportionally at the same location, it's the same in the VC too. I tried deleting the new gauge files and everything else I could find and reinstalled the previous version and it works fine with 6.21. Then tried same clean install with the latest but the problem remained. I have no idea what's wrong on my end. Is there a way for me to provide more info?

Here is a VC screenshot from beech duke.

https://imgur.com/a/7tQZPb0

 

And for the performance problem, my pc has one discrete card. I won't bother you with this problem anymore since it's clearly something to do with my system. 

Edited March 14, 20206 yr by Kaan KASIM

On 3/10/2020 at 5:38 AM, Kaan KASIM said:

I'll try to stay on 6.21 if I manage to slow flightplan issue. (The path given on manual doesn't work for some reason.)

I've forgotten to answer this one: the latest RXP GTN 2.5.23 which is also compatible with GTN Trainer 6.21 now writes the expected FPLN path to the rxpGtnSim.dll log file if not found.

12 hours ago, Kaan KASIM said:

I won't bother you with this problem anymore since it's clearly something to do with my system. 

Nevertheless your system might just be exhibiting an issue in our implementation which wouldn't be found otherwise. It is worth continuing troubleshooting this.

Anything 'rendering' related has extra troubleshooting options documented in the RXP GTN User's Manual in the corresponding chapter. Can you please try settings these 'DebugValue' and 'LogTrainer' settings to see if this produces any other useful information in the log file?

12 hours ago, Kaan KASIM said:

It remains proportionally at the same location, it's the same in the VC too.

This is a good lead to us and we have a good idea what could cause this, however, this has been accounted for and tested during the latest update development. We might have forgotten something but I'd guess we'd see widespread reports if there was a bug in our code. We'll review in more details what could be the probable causes but:

• Are you using any DPI scaling setting for the GTN trainer?
• Have you set a 'compatibility' setting for GTN Simulator.exe (right click > compatibility)?

2 hours ago, RXP said:

I've forgotten to answer this one: the latest RXP GTN 2.5.23 which is also compatible with GTN Trainer 6.21 now writes the expected FPLN path to the rxpGtnSim.dll log file if not found.

That was incredibly helpful, I've solved the problem immediately. Manual shows the fpln directory as "C:\ProgramData\Garmin\GTN Trainer Data\GTN\" but rxp was expecting it "in C:\ProgramData\Garmin\GTN Trainer Data\DB\"

 

2 hours ago, RXP said:

I won't bother you with this problem anymore since it's clearly something to do with my system.

New Garmin trainer itself runs at 2 fps for some reason, I thought the issue wasn't related to your software at all. That's why I said that. I'll look into the manual and report back.

 

2 hours ago, RXP said:

• Are you using any DPI scaling setting for the GTN trainer?
• Have you set a 'compatibility' setting for GTN Simulator.exe (right click > compatibility)?

No to both questions. After I upgrade from v2.5.22 to v2.5.23 cursor problem pops up. Do many people use 6.21? Probably why I'm the only one reporting this input problem.

 

Thanks for the replies. I'm content with staying on v2.5.22 and Garmin 6.21 for performance and compatibility for the time being but it would be great if we could get to the bottom of this! Thanks again!

 

Edit: Here is rxpGtnSim.dll.log with full debug level.

Edited March 14, 20206 yr by Kaan KASIM

12 minutes ago, Kaan KASIM said:

New Garmin trainer itself runs at 2 fps for some reason

Do you mean even when running standalone, only in the simulator via our gauges, or both?

12 minutes ago, Kaan KASIM said:

After I upgrade from v2.5.22 to v2.5.23 cursor problem pops up

Do you mean:

1. RXP GTN v2.5.23 + Trainer 6.21 is having the cursor problem?
2. RXP GTN v2.5.23 + Trainer 6.62.3 is having the cursor problem?
3. RXP GTN v2.5.22 + Trainer 6.21 doesn't have the cursor problem?

 

12 minutes ago, Kaan KASIM said:

That was incredibly helpful, I've solved the problem immediately. Manual shows the fpln directory as

It might be indeed, with so many revisions I'm certain this pass through QA and the typo is still there in the manual. We'll make sure this is corrected in the next update.

17 minutes ago, RXP said:

Do you mean even when running standalone, only in the simulator via our gauges, or both?

I should have beeen more clear, it's the standalone that runs terribly slow but ingame gauges are not as smooth as 6.21 either.

 

17 minutes ago, RXP said:

Do you mean:

1. RXP GTN v2.5.23 + Trainer 6.21 is having the cursor problem?
2. RXP GTN v2.5.23 + Trainer 6.62.3 is having the cursor problem?
3. RXP GTN v2.5.22 + Trainer 6.21 doesn't have the cursor problem?

1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes

That's exactly how it is, I took some videos to showcase it. Much better than me trying to explain it.

- Latest RXP with Trainer 6.62.3. You can tell how choppy it is. The sim is running at 60 fps. (I'm in virtual cockpit only view for more perf.)

https://imgur.com/b5IUmKR

- Latest RXP with Trainer 6.21, You can tell it's much more smooth, I am also showing the click spot problem.

https://imgur.com/1OGtm2W

 

31 minutes ago, Kaan KASIM said:

Edit: Here is rxpGtnSim.dll.log with full debug level.

Btw, you may have missed this edit. It's from RXP GTN v2.5.23 + Trainer 6.62.3.

 

Edit: Forgot to add 6.21 logs, no gpu erros on this one.

https://pastebin.com/VSqdWDEa

Edited March 14, 20206 yr by Kaan KASIM

Thank you for the additional details. This is helpful.  I believe the only way to get to the bottom of this is to cross-check combinations or RXP+trainer and change/test a few different settings.

We'll have a closer look at the extra log entries but IIRC they are only occurring once at startup and they should have no incidence afterward. I also think this is happening only when activating some of the LogTrainer or DebugValue settings.

Have you tried removing the troubleshooting settings from the ini file (or set DebugValue = 0 and LogTrainer = 0)? Do it make any difference?

The difference in performance is dramatic and there is definitely something not right there with the latest trainer on your system. I'm wondering whether there is too much pressure on the VRAM and some of the GTN VRAM assets are swapped to system RAM. It is possible 6.21 consumes less resources than 6.62.3. Do you have any idea how much VRAM vs Total you're consuming here?

We'll have a closer look to the mouse clicks spot scale issue as well. Do you use any 3rd party 'shader' app for enhancing the display in real time (reshade or similar) ?

 

 

Edited March 14, 20206 yr by RXP

48 minutes ago, RXP said:

Have you tried removing the troubleshooting settings from the ini file (or set DebugValue = 0 and LogTrainer = 0)? Do it make any difference?

No, they don't make any difference.

48 minutes ago, RXP said:

 Do you have any idea how much VRAM vs Total you're consuming here?

This is what task manager shows. Same in MSI Afterburner app too.
"    Dedicated GPU memory    2.8/6.0 GB"
 

48 minutes ago, RXP said:

Do you use any 3rd party 'shader' app for enhancing the display in real time (reshade or similar) ?

No.

So far for the standalone trainer I have tried using DDU and reinstalling drivers, disabling GSYNC, but the standalone trainer is still 2 fps. None of the cpu cores are at max btw.

Edited March 14, 20206 yr by Kaan KASIM

Can you tell us what your video card is, what driver version, what OS version?

1 hour ago, RXP said:

Can you tell us what your video card is, what driver version, what OS version?

It's a gaming laptop without a second gpu

Windows 10 pro 64bit
i7 6700hq
nvidia gtx 1060, latest driver

20 hours ago, Kaan KASIM said:

And for the performance problem, my pc has one discrete card.

 

1 hour ago, Kaan KASIM said:

It's a gaming laptop without a second gpu

Nonetheless, can you please review the RXP GTN User's Manual troubleshooting section for discrete vs integrated and make sure about this, and cross check the GTX 1060 is correctly used for GTN Simulator.exe?

 

1 hour ago, Kaan KASIM said:

nvidia gtx 1060, latest driver

What is the driver version #?

 

1 hour ago, RXP said:

Nonetheless, can you please review the RXP GTN User's Manual troubleshooting section for discrete vs integrated and make sure about this, and cross check the GTX 1060 is correctly used for GTN Simulator.exe?

I still looked at it but I am 100% positive that there is only one graphics card, intel gpu is physically disabled on this laptop, for GSYNC to work if I remember correctly. There is no option to choose between them.

The driver version is 442.59.