April 18, 20206 yr Author 1 minute ago, w6kd said: No, I don't agree, and the accusation is about to get you into trouble here. You are free to be as unreasonably and frothing-at-the-mouth unhappy as you desire about Justsim not giving you something you have somehow convinced yourself that you are entitled to...you are not free to publicly accuse them of lying here. Simmarket offers an optional service to create installers for add-ons they market...the installers that open a web browser and take the 20-character registration code and e-mail to produce a long time-limited installer code that you cut-and-paste into the installer to proceed. I have no idea how Simmarket charges for that service, but I do not believe it's free. If the developer creates his own installer--as many like FlyTampa, LatinVFR, FSDT, Flightbeam, Tropicalsim and others do, then they are not depending on (or paying for) Simmarket to do that installer build work for them. So please dial it back a couple notches. So you are saying that its the installer that SimMarket is building for them that costs money and not the delete/upload action of a new file ( @Farlis ) . This is a good assumption, but sorry still an assumption. Why? Because this is not what they say on their announcement. They say "this is policy of the publisher". So, even if what you say is what they are talking about they could say "We don't make our installers, instead we pay SimMarket for our installers, so we pass this cost to our previous customers". Agree? If the word "lying" is not allowed in Avsim then I can rephrase it to "bad business in my opinion". Regarding the: "about Justsim not giving you something you have somehow convinced yourself that you are entitled to..." I will kindly ask you to rephrase your irony here and dial back a couple notches too. A company can do whatever they want for a new update, they can charge 3x times more if they want to. And me as a customer can judge their actions? Right? I am not entitled to anything, I express my opinion about their strategy based on what the rest of the developer's world is doing and what they are offering compared to this company. Do not confuse yourself and do not be sarcastic. Simulators: Prepar3D v5.4 | X-Plane 12 | DCS World | MSFS 2024 | PC Hardware: Dell U3417W | AMD Ryzen 7 9800 X3D | ASUS TUF 5070 Ti | ASUS TUF B580 Plus Wifi | G.Skill Z5 Neo 64GB 3000Mhz CL30 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB + 970 EVO Plus 1TB + 860 EVO 2TB + 850 EVO 1TB, Western Digital Black Caviar Black 6TB | Corsair RM1000i | Corsair 280 Titan RX | VRM Fan | Fractal Design Define S2 Gunmetal | Flight Controls: Fulcrum One Yoke | Virpil VPC WarBRD Base | Virpil VPC MongoosT-50CM Grip, Thrustmaster Warthog+F/A-18C Grip | VIER IM POTT Sidestick CPT Side | Thrustmaster TPR Rudder Pedals | Virtual Fly TQ6+Throttle Quadrant | Sismo B737 Max Gear Lever | Monsterteck Desk Mounts | WINWING EfisL+FCU+MCDU | My fleet catalog: Link
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