Hello guys. Sorry if i'm posting in the wrong section.

 

I'm a fellow beginner in MFS 2020 and i request some advices from Pro's.

I've recorded a landing doing the Nice Challenge landing. I don't know if i'm doing the landings the proper way because i'm struggling to keep the plane in lane because it is bouncing very hard.

Here's the link : 

 

Sorry for the audio, it's a bit delayed.

After examining the video can you please give me some advices/hints to do smother landings? Also can you tell me please if i'm doing something wrong in this landing?

 

flight students repeat touch and go's and landings over and over (you fly in circles around the runway over and over, called pattern work). it takes time, maybe even 50 times until you get them real smooth, and you'll always get compliments for a real greaser landing, even years after you got your license. they'll make every pilot proud.

flap setting? you could try with 1 notch down.

450 fpm vertical speed too high

check approach speed, extend the flare phase.

reduce speed in the flare phase and pull back the yoke slightly (without climbing) until you hear the stall horn as you touch down. you will have the throttle completely closed at that moment. touch down at or slightly above stall speed. that speed varies with weight and flap setting. lower weight and higher flap setting = lower stall speed.

Edited January 25, 20215 yr by turbomax

Hello Sabin.  First of all, that is not a bad landing.

The issues with the plane bouncing seem to be controller related rather than turbulence.
Maybe you could reduce your control sensitivity in the settings.

As turbomax has said, maybe descend lower initially so that you can flare just before the blue target box, and then hopefully, you should float it down into the box.

Also, make sure your trim is set properly for landing so you don't have to over-control it on approach.

It will take a few more goes for practice, but that is what we all have to do.  I have seen much worse than your landing attempts, including the first few of my own on this challenge. 😀

Edited January 25, 20215 yr by bobcat999

That was a reasonably okay landing, not perfect, but certainly not terrible. But since you asked for comments, here goes:

I don't think you are helping yourself much with the view you are using, it's too close to the instruments and too low down - try moving the view back a little (i.e. zooming out the view a bit) and perhaps up a little bit too, so you can see over the coaming and cowling. At present you are losing sight of the runway threshold when you get close with that view, and that's really not helpful at all. Your situational awareness of the approach and how it is progressing will not be as good as it can be if you can't take in a big clear view of the landing.

Having a wider view will let you take in more and allow you to more easily spot trends which need to be corrected, such as maybe needing to add or reduce power to keep heading toward your aim point. A wider view also to some extent emulates what you do in the real thing to judge the flare, i.e. you look at either side through your peripheral vision as you hold off and this helps you to keep the wings level for the touchdown and judge the descent rate more easily.

Ultimately this will mean that when you can easily spot if your intended runway aim point is tending to appear to move up or down the windscreen, you will easily know whether you need to add or reduce a bit of power and you can get on that early.

With regard to actually landing, as in the wheels physically touching down, that was okay, but keep in mind that the ideal idea of doing this, is to have the plane stall as it touches down gently, so that it can't get airborne again because it doesn't have the necessary lift to do so. And there is something important to bear in mind with this:

As you approach near the ground, the air being forced downwards by the trailing edge of the wing, and the air underneath the aeroplane acts as a cushion and increases the lift a bit (ground effect), so even as you slow down, potentially the lift can increase a bit as you get really close to the ground. This is what makes you float instead of landing. So, what you do, is flare to land, but as you judge yourself getting nearer and nearer to the ground, keep getting that stick/yoke back more and more to hold off. It will be pretty much all the way back at touchdown in many aeroplanes, but it won't make the aeroplane climb, it will simply keep it fairly nose high and create more drag to lose flying speed. This will make the aeroplane try to keep flying and slowing down, so it will gently lose the last bit of altitude and settle gently. If you do this right, you will hear the stall buzzer as you touch down and you should come down on the main wheels really softly.

You will know when you've got this right. Keep it up though, you are doing great. 😎

Oh, and don't be afraid to go around if it doesn't look good. Some pilots will let pride get in the way of making that decision and push a bad situation in an ill-advised attempt to sort it out, but the best pilots aren't afraid to come around for another try if things don't look great for whatever reason. And if you do decide to go around, don't do what some pilots do, which is to pour on the power and climb away from the ground immediately as though it was going to bite them; keep it level, fly along the runway and get some speed on while you get it sorted out.

Edited January 25, 20215 yr by Chock