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Does the Monitor matter for Flighsim?

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Hi,

I am wondering if the computer monitor matters for flightsimming? Would I gain a siginificant performance increase by using a 144Hz oder 165Hz monitor? The thing is, I use a monitor for photo editing and in the future video editing. So for photo editing it's quite important that I can calibrate that thing. Right know I have an old NEC with 60Hz. It's still does it's job, however I am wondering if it might be a bottle neck?

 

I think for video editing it's not a bad idea to have two monitors. So could be a compromise to buy one that you can calibrate and other one for gaming? How could that look like? What are good monitors for that?

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The BenQ PD3200U is designed for professional video and photographic work as each monitor has a calibration report. But it's also very good for flight sim as it can run at 3840*2160 @ 30Hz. Not all 4K monitors can.

Use that as your benchmark. https://www.benq.eu/en-uk/monitor/designer/pd3200u.html

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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Sound interessting. I think I had already seen this one at amazon. Review are good, however quite a lot within that report pixel artifacts or other color imbalanced right out of delivery.

For what do I need 144+ Hz? Despite that I am not sure if I wanna buy a 4k monitor. At least I doubt I could run it for gaming, since I am aiming for the 3070 or 3080 initially. 3090 is way to expensive right now.

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@737_800with respect you’re putting the cart before the horse. First decide what resolution you want to run flight sim in. Which sim? Is your CPU and RAM up to the job?

If you want to run in 4K then the 3070 or 3080 would be okay. You just need to lower the settings. My 1080Ti runs P3Dv4 fine because I’m sensible with settings. I don’t have MSFS so can’t judge.

For video and photographic work I would have thought 4K would be preferable over 2560*1440. But it’s your decision.

Regarding reviews if the BenQ PD3200U read independent reviews, not those on Amazon. It’s a quality monitor. I’m totally happy with mine.

https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/benq-pd3200u

https://www.techradar.com/uk/reviews/benq-pd3200u

You only need 144Hz if playing video games that can deliver 144fps. No flight sim program can which is why a monitor that can support 30Hz is useful as 30fps is achievable.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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Can I have a 4K monitor and just run the Sim at 2K ? Right now I don't have a sim. Last I was flying with the FSX. MIght upgrade to P3D v5.1 and later to MSFS when it's more developed and we have our PMDG etc.

I want to fly on high or ultra settings.

Ok, do I understand that correctely that the the monitor frequenzy correlates to the fps? So if a game could achieve 144fps my 60Hz monitor would be the bottle neck? Would that further mean that I would limit the flightsim to 30fps by having a monitor that only support 30Hz?

I think 4K pretty nice for editing purposes, however I just don't want to get into compromises because of it. I think 2K are in update to compared to my NEC PA241W. What I like about the BenQ is the price. Does it support Adobe RGB or what percentage to be precise?

I am setting up a system right now. I think it's gonna be a i9-10900k with 32GB and RTX 3070 (if I can get one)

Edited by 737_800

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2 hours ago, 737_800 said:

Can I have a 4K monitor and just run the Sim at 2K ?

You can but it will look grim. Monitors are designed to run at their native resolution. I have to do it to fly Concorde in P3D v3 and it's far from ideal.

2 hours ago, 737_800 said:

Ok, do I understand that correctely that the the monitor frequenzy correlates to the fps? So if a game could achieve 144fps my 60Hz monitor would be the bottle neck? Would that further mean that I would limit the flightsim to 30fps by having a monitor that only support 30Hz?

If a game could produce 144fps the monitor could not give you a new image every 1/144th of a second as it's limited to the refresh rate set. So whilst the fps in the game would say 166 in reality you're getting no more than 60.

A monitor that supports 30Hz can support higher ones. My BenQ can run at 60Hz or 30Hz at 3840*2160. No point setting it to 60Hz when the fps cannot get above 25 at complex airports. I would get 40-50 once airborne but in reality 30fps looks very smooth.

2 hours ago, 737_800 said:

I think 4K pretty nice for editing purposes, however I just don't want to get into compromises because of it. I think 2K are in update to compared to my NEC PA241W. What I like about the BenQ is the price. Does it support Adobe RGB or what percentage to be precise?

For photographic work where's the compromise? Your digital images are probably much higher resolution. The BenQ supports 100% of sRGB and 75% of Adobe RGB. It's a photographic monitor. I use a Spyder5 to keep it calibrated.

Your CPU and RAM are fine. Source a suitable graphics card and go for 4K monitor. With a system as powerful as that I think you would later regret not doing so.

Edited by Ray Proudfoot
correction

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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17 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

 

A monitor that supports 30Hz can support higher ones. My BenQ can run at 60Hz or 30Hz at 3840*2160.

Why did you emphasize that the BenQ can handle 30Hz in 4K? What does regular monitors handle?

Would I get any issues with the 3070 because of it's limited 8GB VRAM at 4K? I will definetly think about it.

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3 minutes ago, 737_800 said:

Why did you emphasize that the BenQ can handle 30Hz in 4K? What does regular monitors handle?

Would I get any issues with the 3070 because of it's limited 8GB VRAM at 4K? I will definetly think about it.

Because not all 4K monitors are capable of running at 30Hz. Only the better ones can. 60Hz is more common.

I'm not familiar with the 3070 but with only 8Gb VRAM you may encounter problems with P3Dv5 as it uses DirectX 12. P3D v4 and MSFS support DX11 which is less demanding graphically.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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So I had to run it on medium settings? Smells like a compromise. I will use it with the FSL A320.

What about recording flights with fraps or other tools? Might the my future setup cause there any issues?

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@737_800, in all the years I've been running flight sims I've never had all settings to max. The hardware is not out there unless you're prepared to spend many thousands. Medium is fine especially when you add the overhead of the FSL A320.

I've no knowledge of fraps. You're best asking about that in a separate topic in the sim forum of your choice.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

The BenQ supports Adobe RGB to 100%

I think it supports 100% of sRGB and 75% of Adobe RGB.

Also just to point out to the OP that that monitor doesn't support G-Sync or Freesync so could be something to consider if you want to use it for games outside of flight sims.

 

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Just now, Tektolnes said:

I think it supports 100% of sRGB and 75% of Adobe RGB

Thanks. Those were the settings I was trying to recall. G-Sync and Freesync are options but you have to get a card and monitor to match.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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