April 9, 20215 yr When loading the Golden Age Simulations "Brunner Winkle Bird", I get a CTD of P3D5.1 with HF1. The preview of the plane works. I also tried to reinstall the plane, Virus detection off. No change. Golden Age Simulations tried it too in P3D5.1 and it works on their system. I had a look into eventviewer, where DDE.dll is mentioned as the cause. The dll is from Aerosoft, Dynamic Display Engine. This never crashed before. I have lots of other planes from GAS, which work all fine. Disabling this .dll makes Geneva Professional unusable, severe stutters occur. So that´s not an option. But while DDE.dll is disabled, the BW Bird made the sim crash because of nvwgf2umx.dll Name der fehlerhaften Anwendung: Prepar3D.exe, Version: 5.1.12.26829, Zeitstempel: 0x5fb44f72Name des fehlerhaften Moduls: nvwgf2umx.dll, Version: 27.21.14.6207, Zeitstempel: 0x6053c395 Ausnahmecode: 0xc0000005 Fehleroffset: 0x00000000005ca5df ID des fehlerhaften Prozesses: 0x75a8 Startzeit der fehlerhaften Anwendung: 0x01d72c90c678dd4e Pfad der fehlerhaften Anwendung: F:\Program Files\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v5\Prepar3D.exe Pfad des fehlerhaften Moduls: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_9da2cefd4da005f9\nvwgf2umx.dll Berichtskennung: 36d47d6a-8855-4d67-8ed7-5af43373617f Vollständiger Name des fehlerhaften Pakets: Anwendungs-ID, die relativ zum fehlerhaften Paket ist: When it says it´s DDE.dll the error reporting is Name der fehlerhaften Anwendung: PREPAR3D.EXE, Version: 5.1.12.26829, Zeitstempel: 0x5fb44f72 Name des fehlerhaften Moduls: DDE.dll, Version: 1.0.0.0, Zeitstempel: 0x5d542e49 Ausnahmecode: 0xc0000409 Fehleroffset: 0x0000000000045e94 ID des fehlerhaften Prozesses: 0xb3c Startzeit der fehlerhaften Anwendung: 0x01d72cfde84ad021 Pfad der fehlerhaften Anwendung: F:\Program Files\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v5\PREPAR3D.EXE Pfad des fehlerhaften Moduls: F:\Flightsim Addons\Aerosoft\Dynamic Display Engine\bin\DDE.dll Berichtskennung: cc5a1eb3-4ccc-4ebf-a5d0-5630b2e3ff7d Vollständiger Name des fehlerhaften Pakets: Anwendungs-ID, die relativ zum fehlerhaften Paket ist: Does someone have an idea, what is causing this crash? My system is very stable otherwise. No problems at the moment. I use NVidia driver 461.91. I´m aware, the plane was made before P3D5 and I just want to solve the mystery, why this does not work on my end. Any hint is appreciated. Thanks Dan OS=WIN11 Home, Sim=P3D5 5.3 (P3D4 and FSX for install reasons) Addons=ORBX, ASCA, AS, TOGA and tons of sceneries, aircraft MB=Gigabyte AORUS Z790 Elite AX, CPU=i13900K, Cooling=Be quiet! Pure Loop II FX GPU=KFA2 RTX3090 24 GB, RAM=64 GB DDR5-5600, HOTAS=Logitech G Saitek X52 Pro Visit my website for fixes and addons: https://sites.google.com/view/dans-p3d-mods
April 9, 20215 yr Try reverting to a previous version of Nvidia driver. That fixed the issue for my set up. Zicheng Cai
April 9, 20215 yr Author 3 hours ago, Cai Zicheng said: Try reverting to a previous version of Nvidia driver. That fixed the issue for my set up. It is not the driver issue of 465.89, which leads to an immediate CTD for all of us. I already use the former driver 461.91. It is an aircraft problem. OS=WIN11 Home, Sim=P3D5 5.3 (P3D4 and FSX for install reasons) Addons=ORBX, ASCA, AS, TOGA and tons of sceneries, aircraft MB=Gigabyte AORUS Z790 Elite AX, CPU=i13900K, Cooling=Be quiet! Pure Loop II FX GPU=KFA2 RTX3090 24 GB, RAM=64 GB DDR5-5600, HOTAS=Logitech G Saitek X52 Pro Visit my website for fixes and addons: https://sites.google.com/view/dans-p3d-mods
April 9, 20215 yr i would still do a DDU complete removal of your graphics drivers and put 461.91 back. that error code is linked to driver issues 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
April 9, 20215 yr Author 8 minutes ago, micstatic said: i would still do a DDU complete removal of your graphics drivers and put 461.91 back. that error code is linked to driver issues thanks, but I already did a DDU removal and installed 461.91. Never had a problem with any other aircraft. I could try once again. Edited April 9, 20215 yr by blaunarwal OS=WIN11 Home, Sim=P3D5 5.3 (P3D4 and FSX for install reasons) Addons=ORBX, ASCA, AS, TOGA and tons of sceneries, aircraft MB=Gigabyte AORUS Z790 Elite AX, CPU=i13900K, Cooling=Be quiet! Pure Loop II FX GPU=KFA2 RTX3090 24 GB, RAM=64 GB DDR5-5600, HOTAS=Logitech G Saitek X52 Pro Visit my website for fixes and addons: https://sites.google.com/view/dans-p3d-mods
April 9, 20215 yr 51 minutes ago, blaunarwal said: thanks, but I already did a DDU removal and installed 461.91. Never had a problem with any other aircraft. I could try once again. While it may work on some computers I'm guessing it is just not fully compatible with V5. Or atleast some system/software configs of V5. But that's just my theory. 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
April 9, 20215 yr Author 1 hour ago, micstatic said: While it may work on some computers I'm guessing it is just not fully compatible with V5. Or atleast some system/software configs of V5. But that's just my theory. I have a long time experience with older aircraft on my system. I tried some, which I gave up the first second, when they crashed the sim. This one is compatible, since the model works and all other files, like aircraft and panel.cfg, .air file do not show a problem, at least I can´t see it. They are not different compared to any called compatible plane. I did another DDU and installed an even older driver 461.72 (not really old 😉 ) but the same. I still hope someone can really read something out of the error and adress codes, give me a hint of which files causes that. Just checked the textures and did not find a problem there. OS=WIN11 Home, Sim=P3D5 5.3 (P3D4 and FSX for install reasons) Addons=ORBX, ASCA, AS, TOGA and tons of sceneries, aircraft MB=Gigabyte AORUS Z790 Elite AX, CPU=i13900K, Cooling=Be quiet! Pure Loop II FX GPU=KFA2 RTX3090 24 GB, RAM=64 GB DDR5-5600, HOTAS=Logitech G Saitek X52 Pro Visit my website for fixes and addons: https://sites.google.com/view/dans-p3d-mods
April 9, 20215 yr Author I fixed it. There were different errors in the aircraft.cfg, double [General] sections and double atc_type and atc_model entries. I think the relevant one was this atc_type=Brunner Winkle atc_model=1929 Bird Model A I think four words is too much, max is two for atc_type and only one for atc_model, which has to be a 3 to 4 letter code. Therefore the stack overflow. Since the Brunner Winkle is not a defined type, it doesn´t matter and I set the value empty. The only thing not working is the radio, where I can´t switch on/off. The same radio works on other planes. Another mistery to solve. Already solved, missing radio section. Edited April 9, 20215 yr by blaunarwal OS=WIN11 Home, Sim=P3D5 5.3 (P3D4 and FSX for install reasons) Addons=ORBX, ASCA, AS, TOGA and tons of sceneries, aircraft MB=Gigabyte AORUS Z790 Elite AX, CPU=i13900K, Cooling=Be quiet! Pure Loop II FX GPU=KFA2 RTX3090 24 GB, RAM=64 GB DDR5-5600, HOTAS=Logitech G Saitek X52 Pro Visit my website for fixes and addons: https://sites.google.com/view/dans-p3d-mods
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