January 15, 20224 yr Commercial Member P2A does understand the phonetic alphabet. it's the names that are a problem. Is the name in all capital letters? It could be a problem in the comparison logic. What readback is having this issue? Is the clearance readback, the expected arrival readback or a clearance readback? Dave
January 15, 20224 yr Author 1 minute ago, Dave-Pilot2ATC said: P2A does understand the phonetic alphabet. it's the names that are a problem. Is the name in all capital letters? It could be a problem in the comparison logic. What readback is having this issue? Is the clearance readback, the expected arrival readback or a clearance readback? Dave It's expected arrival. Anyway, you have confirmed p2atc understand phonetic alphabet, it may be better.
January 15, 20224 yr Commercial Member If you have the problem again, please send me the log file for a flight where this occurs to help me identify where the problem is. P2A Log files are located in: C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Roaming\P2A_200\Logs where <UserName> is your PC user name. After the problem occurs, shut down P2A and the most recent file in the Logs folder will be the right one to send. Dave
January 16, 20224 yr Author 18 hours ago, Dave-Pilot2ATC said: If you have the problem again, please send me the log file for a flight where this occurs to help me identify where the problem is. P2A Log files are located in: C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Roaming\P2A_200\Logs where <UserName> is your PC user name. After the problem occurs, shut down P2A and the most recent file in the Logs folder will be the right one to send. Dave Today I requested clearance, SID was EKLO8M, and I read back by phonetic alphabet, p2atc could recognized all words, understand readback altitude and squawck but still said that readback incorrect, 3 times. I'm using latest version (1h) and below is log file and route: LIRF SIP9C SIPRO Z803 TEA L995 KAPPO M603 GOKEL M26 DITAN DITA1N LATI https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tgjPDAfld0IdwIxoUo2wh6EweV8pzuVt/view?usp=sharing
January 16, 20224 yr Commercial Member The clearance readback is the most complex and usually the program can understand it if you pronounce the procedure names as words, like "Eklo eight M" for the SID name. If that fails, you can press the SayIt button and it will get accepted. With the millions of proper names and acronyms in the aviation world around the planet, the Grammar to understand them all would be impossible, so pressing the SayIt button is your best option, rather than getting frustrated that the machine can't understand you. If you have read the response printed in Yellow and it fails, just let the Copilot do his/her job and press SayIt. Dave
January 26, 20224 yr Author On 1/16/2022 at 9:05 PM, Dave-Pilot2ATC said: The clearance readback is the most complex and usually the program can understand it if you pronounce the procedure names as words, like "Eklo eight M" for the SID name. If that fails, you can press the SayIt button and it will get accepted. With the millions of proper names and acronyms in the aviation world around the planet, the Grammar to understand them all would be impossible, so pressing the SayIt button is your best option, rather than getting frustrated that the machine can't understand you. If you have read the response printed in Yellow and it fails, just let the Copilot do his/her job and press SayIt. Dave Hi Dave, Is possible P2ATC automatically change landing or take off runways due to weather from active sky? And randomrize STARs and SIDs function working properly?
January 26, 20224 yr Commercial Member If you uncheck the "Force Pilot Ruwnay Selection" it will change runways if weather changes before you get the Expected arrival information. Randomizing SIDs and STARs randomizes whether you get them or not. It does not randomize the SID or STAR selected because that is dependent on the Flight Plan route. Dave
January 27, 20224 yr Author 22 hours ago, Dave-Pilot2ATC said: If you uncheck the "Force Pilot Ruwnay Selection" it will change runways if weather changes before you get the Expected arrival information. Randomizing SIDs and STARs randomizes whether you get them or not. It does not randomize the SID or STAR selected because that is dependent on the Flight Plan route. Dave I have flight from LFRS to LIRF, unchecked "Force Pilot Runway Selection". According to metar and atis, landing runway was 34L and 34R, but P2atc assigned me runway 16L P2atc was using Active Sky in Wx tab. Below is log: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HW6FNvQjAocQG9sNz2des2KYnI3zBVQd/view?usp=sharing Route: LFRS LUGE3S LUGEN UM616 TUPAR DCT NOQAS UM728 BTA UL146 MOULE L146 ELKAP ELKA3C LIRF
January 27, 20224 yr Commercial Member Wind is not the only factor in runway selection. Preferred Light Wind runways are used if the Headwind/tailwind components are below the limits entered in TaxiMnt. Availability of precision approaches, etc. will also influence it. And if the flight plan selected approach/runway does not violate any rules, it will be favored. The actual METAR does not give landing runways. Looks like ASN has selected some runways that it favors. You can select one of those runways in your flight plan. Then, en-route, when you get your expected arrival call from ATC, if it doesn't give you what you want, you can request a specific Destination runway. Dave
February 21, 20224 yr Author On 1/28/2022 at 12:46 AM, Dave-Pilot2ATC said: Wind is not the only factor in runway selection. Preferred Light Wind runways are used if the Headwind/tailwind components are below the limits entered in TaxiMnt. Availability of precision approaches, etc. will also influence it. And if the flight plan selected approach/runway does not violate any rules, it will be favored. The actual METAR does not give landing runways. Looks like ASN has selected some runways that it favors. You can select one of those runways in your flight plan. Then, en-route, when you get your expected arrival call from ATC, if it doesn't give you what you want, you can request a specific Destination runway. Dave Hi DAVE, is possible turn off "Descend to cross...." when reached to TOD of p2atc? cause I want to request descend manually when reach to tod by self calculated, it's more realistic. And one more thing, when P2atc could not receive weather report form active sky or rex weather force, it prompted a popup, but that popup was behind the game screen, if user did not notice and turn the popup off, p2atc would be freeze. Kindly inform to you if it's a bug. Regards. Edited February 21, 20224 yr by gundamf91
February 21, 20224 yr Commercial Member It does understand the phonetic alphabet now. For example, when saying the Code for an airport. It may not understand it in some contexts. If you are doing a readback, just pronounce the words like ATC says them and it should be understood. Dave
February 22, 20224 yr Author 5 hours ago, Dave-Pilot2ATC said: It does understand the phonetic alphabet now. For example, when saying the Code for an airport. It may not understand it in some contexts. If you are doing a readback, just pronounce the words like ATC says them and it should be understood. Dave How about this, Dave? 12 hours ago, gundamf91 said: Hi DAVE, is possible turn off "Descend to cross...." when reached to TOD of p2atc? cause I want to request descend manually when reach to tod by self calculated, it's more realistic. And one more thing, when P2atc could not receive weather report form active sky or rex weather force, it prompted a popup, but that popup was behind the game screen, if user did not notice and turn the popup off, p2atc would be freeze. Kindly inform to you if it's a bug. Regards.
April 5, 20224 yr Author Hi Dave, I'm using latest beta (2n), flight from LEMD to LEBL route: PINA3N PINAR UN870 PONEN UT600 CASPE CASP1Y, departure runway 36L. when hold short runway 36L, switch to tower and "Bamboo 286 ready for departure runway 36L", there was no reply, how to fix? Edited April 5, 20224 yr by gundamf91
June 6, 20223 yr Author On 1/28/2022 at 12:46 AM, Dave-Pilot2ATC said: Wind is not the only factor in runway selection. Preferred Light Wind runways are used if the Headwind/tailwind components are below the limits entered in TaxiMnt. Availability of precision approaches, etc. will also influence it. And if the flight plan selected approach/runway does not violate any rules, it will be favored. The actual METAR does not give landing runways. Looks like ASN has selected some runways that it favors. You can select one of those runways in your flight plan. Then, en-route, when you get your expected arrival call from ATC, if it doesn't give you what you want, you can request a specific Destination runway. Dave Hi Dave, Could you please add "choose active runway by win direction"? Cause as I research from youtube and pilots, active runways usally chosen by wind direction.
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