June 11, 20214 yr I made a flight EGNX - EDDK a few days ago. All ran smoothly until Radar Contact gave me vectors for the approach: Expected arrival EDDK - runway 32R [ILS designation IKEN; 109.70; course 318] Set up for that approach made the various turns before capturing the localiser; set course to 318; Nav set to 109.70. The MDF then displayed the ILS designator as IWNN ! (Does not exist at EDDK) Aircraft continued to fly as last vector heading which then required a manual landing. Yesterday I set up at EDDK and checked runway details...there are three runways each with ILS: 14L [IKES; 110.90; course 138] 24 [IKOW: 109.10; course 244] 32R [IKEN; 109.70; course 318] The 'incorrect' localiser IWNN also displays at 109.70/318 but is not 'listed' for EDDK. I then made a recce flight taking off from 24, climbing to 5,000 feet flying straight with Nav1 set to 109.70 and IWNN displayed on the MFD. After about 10 miles made a turn to 180; about 5-miles further along on 180 the MFD display changed to IKEN!!! I thought there must have been some sort of glitch that was now corrected ~~~ flew for another 5-miles then turned to 090 with IKEN still on MFD. Then.............after turning to 330 to intercept the localiser MFD display changed to localiser IWNN again and another manual landing had to be made. After some discussion with another Simmer I find that very close to EDDK is a smaller airport ETNN that has the ILS designator IWNN on exactly the same frequency of 109.70 (course 246) ! What really surprises me is that despite setting up for IKEN and being very close to it, P3D decided to 'fly' to the wrong runway. I would have thought that in the interests of safety, ILS frequencies for airports would be a reasonable distance apart to avoid such confusion. Fortunately, this was 'only' a simulation but still important! Are there any other examples of this? Ken 😉 Old enough to know better... ...young enough to do most of it again! System: Chillblast (Matt Davies designed) Intel i5-6600 Sklylake CPU O/C to 4.4 GHz; Liquid Cooled; Asus Z170 PRO GAMING MoBo; MSI GeForce GTX 1660Ti 6Gb; 16Gb Corsair Crucial DDR4 RAM; SSD plus SSHD drives; Windows-10. GF MCP-Pro and EFIS + 8 other GF Modules, Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo units, Saitek Pedals, Iiyama 19" x 2, 40" smart TV.
June 11, 20214 yr 22 minutes ago, Ken Hall said: Are there any other examples of this? Which simulator? Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
June 11, 20214 yr The current r/w frequency for the EDDK ILS 32L (IKEN) is 111.1 not 109.7 It may have been 109.7 in the past The default nav data in P3D is quite old. To correct it, you could use the free worldwide ILS updates from Hervé Sors https://www.aero.sors.fr/navaids3.html If you are using P3D 5.xx, you would have to send an email request to receive the update package. Details are on the page linked above. Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
June 12, 20214 yr Author Sorry Guys ~~~ should have said "P3Dv5.2xxx" Thanks for the link to update Nav Data. Just knew there would be a 'simple' explanation 🙂 Ken 😉 Old enough to know better... ...young enough to do most of it again! System: Chillblast (Matt Davies designed) Intel i5-6600 Sklylake CPU O/C to 4.4 GHz; Liquid Cooled; Asus Z170 PRO GAMING MoBo; MSI GeForce GTX 1660Ti 6Gb; 16Gb Corsair Crucial DDR4 RAM; SSD plus SSHD drives; Windows-10. GF MCP-Pro and EFIS + 8 other GF Modules, Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo units, Saitek Pedals, Iiyama 19" x 2, 40" smart TV.
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