I have just bought a Saitek Multipanel, the one with the autopilot, and have the newest drivers installed.

With some planes it works fine. But with others (The Islander & CRJ for instance) I get a CTD a minute or so after taking off. No idea of the cause. It happens whether or not I touch the panel.

Is this a known issue and is there a fix other than unplugging it? Any help would be appreciated.

Edited June 15, 20214 yr by jarmstro

Not heard of that before, works fine out the box on my setup - specs in my signature.

10 hours ago, jarmstro said:

I have just bought a Saitek Multipanel, the one with the autopilot, and have the newest drivers installed.

With some planes it works fine. But with others (The Islander & CRJ for instance) I get a CTD a minute or so after taking off. No idea of the cause. It happens whether or not I touch the panel.

Is this a known issue and is there a fix other than unplugging it? Any help would be appreciated.

May not be your particular issue, but Saitek devices and panels are notorious for falling victim to Advanced Power Management in Windows 7 through 10.  Should this be what is causing your issue here are some steps to try.  First step is to go into Control Panel, Device Manager, HID (Human Interface Devices) and locate the panel as a USB item by unplugging it and then plugging it back in.  Once located right click on it and click Properties.  Then click on Power Management.  If the option is selected, deselect it.  Then there is a registry patch that might also be needed.  Do a web search for USBEnhancedPowerManagementDisabler.exe and see if you can still find that app.

There may be more information in this thread: https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/487313-spad-or-saitek-plugins/page/2/

43 minutes ago, fppilot said:

May not be your particular issue, but Saitek devices and panels are notorious for falling victim to Advanced Power Management in Windows 7 through 10.  Should this be what is causing your issue here are some steps to try.  First step is to go into Control Panel, Device Manager, HID (Human Interface Devices) and locate the panel as a USB item by unplugging it and then plugging it back in.  Once located right click on it and click Properties.  Then click on Power Management.  If the option is selected, deselect it.  Then there is a registry patch that might also be needed.  Do a web search for USBEnhancedPowerManagementDisabler.exe and see if you can still find that app.

There may be more information in this thread: https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/487313-spad-or-saitek-plugins/page/2/

Thanks so much. I'll try what you suggest tomorrow.

Also, I suggest looking into buying spad.next. It basically allows you to reprogram your entire devices. That way, if there is a bug in the native code you can replace it with a compatible lvar or msfs native function. 

9 hours ago, fppilot said:

May not be your particular issue, but Saitek devices and panels are notorious for falling victim to Advanced Power Management in Windows 7 through 10.  Should this be what is causing your issue here are some steps to try.  First step is to go into Control Panel, Device Manager, HID (Human Interface Devices) and locate the panel as a USB item by unplugging it and then plugging it back in.  Once located right click on it and click Properties.  Then click on Power Management.  If the option is selected, deselect it.  Then there is a registry patch that might also be needed.  Do a web search for USBEnhancedPowerManagementDisabler.exe and see if you can still find that app.

There may be more information in this thread: https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/487313-spad-or-saitek-plugins/page/2/

So far so good! That seems to have fixed it. I can't thank you enough.

8 hours ago, jarmstro said:

So far so good! That seems to have fixed it. I can't thank you enough.

Sounded like a consistent timing issue.  Brought back some nightmares from several years ago.

For future reference, Spad.next keeps an eye out of the sleep settings of the USB devices and will automatically turn sleep functions off if it detects that windows have turned them on. Spad.next isnt a must for saitek/logitech panels, but after a year of using it I dont know what I would do without it 🙂 

2 hours ago, fppilot said:

Sounded like a consistent timing issue.  Brought back some nightmares from several years ago.

Well thanks to you I can confirm that is now working perfectly and the sim is stable with all the planes I have tried. But now that I have it up and running I'm not quite sure that it adds much to my enjoyment of the sim but that's another matter.

2 hours ago, jarmstro said:

Well thanks to you I can confirm that is now working perfectly and the sim is stable with all the planes I have tried. But now that I have it up and running I'm not quite sure that it adds much to my enjoyment of the sim but that's another matter.

I still have a Multipanel and use it occasionally.  My primary use was with Carenado GA models, mostly Cessna twins, that have the AP location on the quadrant wall or center console.  Liked it a lot better than using 2D popups.  My Honeycomb Bravo duplicates most if not all of the Multipanel functions.