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I have been simming for 20 some years and it is my winter hobby.I love it.Just an observation now that VC's are the big thing.I look around and there is no one,including me, in the plane.I was showing my son in law my TrackIR and how great it was.He said"look,you have no legs or feet!"Came someone put some passengers and a copilot onboard?Just curious.Ron

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There are already several payware add-ons available: FSPassengers, FS2Crew and Flight Deck Companion. Unfortunately the best ones, FSPassengers and FS2Crew are not available yet for FSX, but I am sure they'll come sooner or later.You can check out the reviews of the products in the review section here or at http://www.fspassengers.com and http://www.fs2crew.comHope this helps.Pat

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Thank you for the response.It always amazes me what I can learn from these forums.Ron

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>I have been simming for 20 some years and it is my winter>hobby.I love it.Just an observation now that VC's are the big>thing.I look around and there is no one,including me, in the>plane.I was showing my son in law my TrackIR and how great it>was.He said"look,you have no legs or feet!"Came someone put>some passengers and a copilot onboard?Just curious.RonHmm. You an I are polar opposites. I absolutely despise any visible crew, passengers, or body parts in VCs. In the case of crew or passengers, either they look like crash-test dummies, or if they're detailed enough to look decent, they kill your frame rate. And I find looking at my own virtual body parts to be just creepy. To each their own.

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OK,I appreciate the comments.Just was flying the Cessna Caravan and looked back to the passenger area and it was empty.I was not happy not being able to cover expenses and dropping lots of money on this flight.Ron

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With a chest like that she must wreak havoc on your fuel consumption :9

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Dan, I agree that seeing your own body parts is probably not necessary. But I regard it as essential to be able to see realistic animated crew members and passengers. It's easy to move around some beautifully modelled cockpits and passenger cabins. To see them completely devoid of human life is completely bizarre and totally unrealistic.Best regards, Chris

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Pat, I took a look at those links. They're interesting as they add procedures that simulate passengers and flight crew. But they don't seem to add any visible people, which was the point of the original poster.Best regards, Chris

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You should petition Electronic Arts to publish "The Sims 2 - Airplane Addon" with a Flight Simulator X plugin.It would be fun to have flight attendants speaking Simlish and chasing a dog around the cabin and passengers making out in the lavatory. And then suddenly #### breaks loose as Aliens abduct the plane. Well I've been playing The Sims 2 too much. ;)Christian

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Garett:If you want her to speak, our demo gives her the voice of flight instuctor Miss Aviatrix. She's a firm instructor, but a fair one.;) Regards - Jeff

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Ron:See what you mean.PC Pilot Magazine's demo CD has a Cessna Citation with a blonde female in the co-pilot seat as I recall. I dare say it's available on the web...? She's animated too.Seems to me there's a pretty new pretty spiffy business jet out there with a wakling flight attendant too - sorry I can't recall the name - perhaps search for recent business jets.Regards - Jeff

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Nels:>>>> Seems to me there's a pretty new pretty spiffy business jet out there with a wakling flight attendant too >> Do you mean the new Just Flight Business Jet? Does she walk? Cool!Erm - certainly could be, but, I may have stretched things unintentionally by my use of the word "wakling", which I can only imagine is either a typing mistake or some sort of mutant duck.Maybe she just stands there, looking aloof...RegardsJeff

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LOL! I can't wait to see her open the trunk, take her luggae out and hop on the plane. NelsP.s. Do you think in 2015 we'll laugh at this statement when FSTSCFS2015 arrives on the shelves? (Flight Sim & Train Sim & Combat FS)

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You know what: This right here is where Microsoft totally missed the boat (so-to-speak) with FSX.Now, if every VC came with this co-pilot, do you really think people would be harping on about frame rates?I, for one, think not sir.

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Pat,In point of fact FS2Crew actually does work in FSX.We have two FSX versions (747 and 172).As for moving (visible) people, it would be nice but at this point in the FS game it doesn't seem technically possible without significant framerate loss (I'm talking about a whole plane full of moving people, not just one or two).Cheers,Bryan

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Oops, my bad, Bryan. I even have the 172 FS2Crew for FSX. Duh. ;)On that note, are you planning to update the ATR, once it's patched to FSX? Just from reading the board on Flight1 they seem to be very busy with it.Pat

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> it doesn't seem technically possible>without significant framerate loss (I'm talking about a whole>plane full of moving people, not just one or two).Bryan, one or two is still infinitely greater than zero! Seriously, I would be interested in any addon that does add realistic animated passengers/flight crew/ground crew. Of course, the user should be able to configure the maximum number of humans to keep acceptable frame rates.Best regards, Chris

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I believe moving and "interactive" passengers will be a feature in the next gen train sims.I still would have preferred something along the lines of FS Passengers or Airliner Pilot built in as an option to pursue a career, rather than standalone challenges.It would also be nice to set up your own airline network (Yes I know we have Airline 6 for some of that) and devise and fly your timetables. That's the sort of depth I would be looking for, otherwise it is just more of the same. Maybe that will make it into FS11 or FS12.

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Microsoft seem to prefer to let 3rd party developers add this kind of "depth" to their "products". Just take a look at the number of addons for Office...

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I am all for visable animated (interactive!!) people in FS, it would make it less antiseptic. Everytime I load a flight or land I feel like a plague has hit the airport and everyone is gone!There have been a few games that have the ability to change perspective in them, I don't see why FS has to be any different. The ability to stay in Sim perspectiuve (for the purists) or first person and interact around the airport, man this would add a whole new dimension to AI spotting.Regards, MichaelKDFWNot anti FS9, just pro FSX!

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