September 27, 20214 yr I don't use rudder pedals but until I started flying the 787-10 it's not been much of an issue, that is the issue I'm having with this plane: when I turn the yoke to ground steer the rate of turn increases until about the midpoint of fully turning the yoke, then after that it wants to decrease the rate of turn such that when the yoke is fully turned either direction the plane was to straighten out. I don't recall this behavior in FSX/P3D--it would keep increasing, though within a maximum turn. I played around w/ sensitivities but haven't improved over the default sensitivities. No need to recommend I invest in rudder pedals I really have no desire for them and haven't for some 30y now... Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
September 27, 20214 yr Personally, I don't see how an aircraft can fly without rudder pedals. Can't even make a crosswind landing.
September 28, 20214 yr Author 7 hours ago, Bobsk8 said: Personally, I don't see how an aircraft can fly without rudder pedals. Can't even make a crosswind landing. It's done by the software, syncing rudder and aeleron and has been since FSX and before. Easy peasy. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
September 28, 20214 yr 42 minutes ago, Noel said: It's done by the software, syncing rudder and aeleron and has been since FSX and before. Easy peasy. Rudder and aelerons are not synced in a real aircraft.
September 28, 20214 yr Author I know Bob. I also know that for 30y I've had no troubles flying and landing everywhere you would be able to fly and land. If you can't answer the question just disregard it. Quote Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
September 28, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: Rudder and aelerons are not synced in a real aircraft. You're not flying a real aircraft in MSFS. Please get over yourself. Accept that not everyone has your priorities. PC: I9-10900K, RXT 3090, 64GB RAM, 3840x1080 49" super-ultrawide
September 28, 20214 yr Author Just now, Sigwolf said: You're not flying a real aircraft in MSFS. Please get over yourself. Accept that not everyone has your priorities. Thanks--I tried w/ the simple comment above in my OP but people disregard this anyway, sadly. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
September 28, 20214 yr 28 minutes ago, Sigwolf said: You're not flying a real aircraft in MSFS. Please get over yourself. Accept that not everyone has your priorities. You get over yourself, who the heck are you to lecture me about flying?
September 28, 20214 yr 29 minutes ago, Noel said: I know Bob. I also know that for 30y I've had no troubles flying and landing everywhere you would be able to fly and land. If you can't answer the question just disregard it. Explain to me how exactly do you execute a crosswind landing with no separate rudder and aileron control?
September 28, 20214 yr Author 3 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: Explain to me how exactly do you execute a crosswind landing with no separate rudder and aileron control? Go to you room Bob... Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
September 28, 20214 yr 25 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: You get over yourself, who the heck are you to lecture me about flying? Who the heck are you to lecture the message board about flying? As others have already explained to you, many times, there are several ways to execute a crosswind landing without physical rudder pedals. The easiest involves the multitude of controllers that have a twist axis to simulate rudder control. Some people use keyboard inputs for the rudder axis. Noel has indicated he uses the sim ability to sync rudder and aileron. A number of people adapt to what they have available. Please stop believing you have the only answer. You use what you need to make your simulated flying right for you. Don't pretend, for an instant, you hold the answers for what everyone else wants from simulated flying. edit... and if you want to get technical... at no point did I 'lecture you about flying', unless pointing out that using a computer sim is not actually flying, and not everyone has the same goals in that endeavor. If that is considered lecturing in your mind, the best quote that comes to mind is from 'Stripes'... "Lighten up, Francis". Edited September 28, 20214 yr by Sigwolf PC: I9-10900K, RXT 3090, 64GB RAM, 3840x1080 49" super-ultrawide
September 28, 20214 yr Actually rudder and yoke are auto-synced to a limited extent in some (all?) real world PA28s 😄 http://www.pilotfriend.com/training/flight_training/fxd_wing/piperpa28.htm Quote Any deflection of the ailerons requires the use of rudder for coordination. In the PA28 series you cannot use ailerons normally without automatic rudder being applied. There is a linkage between the ailerons and the rudder that tends to keep the ball centred and a semblance of coordination. I feel this is the reason that Piper pilots tend to be rudder lazy when compared with pilots flying other aircraft. That said it would be very difficult to do a wing low crosswind approach without independent control of rudder and aileron. You would be limited to crabbing in a strong crosswind. Edited September 28, 20214 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick
September 28, 20214 yr Author I think I may have discovered what i needed by using a high extremity dead zone so that after half turned the effect does not start diminishing, at least looks favorable from my last turn into the runway at RKSS. Cheers Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
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