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WAWI Airport wrong coordinates or mislabeled?

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I used LNM to plan a flight from WAWI to WAYY. I'm also using pilot2atc. Prior to this, I had to run MakeRunways in order to import MSFS2020 small airports into pilot2atc. Anyway, I just made this flight plan in LNM, imported it to MSFS2020 with no issues. The problem is that when I import it to P2A, the starting point of WAWI is hundreds of miles west of where it really should be and where both LNM and MSFS2020 correctly show it. 

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Will do...had to do a reinstall of P2A and reimport of runways/taxiways, which takes a while. Had an issue where I couldn't file my flight plan so doing a reinstall of P2A as first step in troubleshooting. If that doesn't fix it, I will send you that flight plan as well. Thanks!

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Ok, I sent you both flight plans. The first one is the one where WAWI is several hundred miles too far west. The second one is a plan I can validate but cannot file. Thanks!

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Dave, 

 

Thanks for the update. Question: if I install the beta, will all of my runway additions under taxiway maintenance again need to be reimported? Is there a way to do this or something I can copy from my existing P2A installation rather than go through the 30-40 min reimport? Thanks again.

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Also, should I run Makerunways again with the new beta? I guess I'm looking for instructions on how to properly install the beta, making sure the info from makerunways gets reimported. Thanks again.

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Ok the mystery is solved on why some of my FP will file and some won't, but I don't know what it means. The ones that will file have a pink line running into the destination airfield while the ones that don't, don't. 

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The beta is an update and so does not change any settings or data.  So your TaxiMnt changes are safe and you don't need to run MakeRunways, unless you want to do another import into TaxiMnt.

The pink line is a runway extension line to aid in lining up for a straight-in when flying VFR with no approach....like you do.

Dave

 

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Ok I read that about the magenta line in another post. Still the question begs, how come I can't file a FP where there is not a magenta line coming from the destination runway? Most of these runways tend to be smaller bush runways, but some of them aren't. I guess what I'm asking is what in the coding determines if a destination runway has this magenta line or not? Also, if i start at a small airstrip that doesn't let me file when I land there (for example AYXE)  it will let me file if i take off from there as long as the desto airport has the pink line (for example AYMN). In other words, you can take off from any strip in the data base, but you can't land or the plan won't file. 

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19 minutes ago, Dave-Pilot2ATC said:

The airport has to be in the database and have a runway defined that can be used to draw the extension from.

Dave

Sorry to be so inquisitive, but I really want to understand and use this. If what I'm hearing is correct, you're basically saying that a lot of small airports cannot use pilot2atc, correct? 
While it appears using the makerunways app adds nearly every airport, many/most/all of those added cannot be a destination because you can't file a flight plan. Do I have that correct? Trying to figure out if P2A is worthwhile for us bush pilots. 

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Now I'm really confused. I can take off from these runways, I just can't land at them. The runways are there (most were added via MakeRunways). When I look at these runways (the ones I can take off from but not land, that is if I want to file a flight plan) in TaxiMnt, they look exactly like the ones I can land at. I actually was doing that last night, looking for differences so maybe I could figure out how to make them "landable" for the flight filing. 

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After much trial and error, I've come to the conclusion that if the airfield in NOT in the current AIRAC, then it will NOT allow you to validate and file and flight plan to land...you can take off from there no problem. I thought, perhaps incorrectly, that makerunways would add airfields from MSFS2020 and import them to P2A, thus allowing flight planning even without ATC and/or frequencies. While makerunways does indeed import airports that would otherwise not exist in P2A, for some reason you can't validate/file a plan that involves landing at one of these airfields. The question is whether or not that is working as intended inside of P2A? 

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