Finally, after months of messing about, I was today ready to fire up my new rig.

12900K

32gb GSkill DDR5

EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Gaming.

New monitor too.

Exciting stuff. However, whenever I fire up a new rig there's a degree of trepidation, wouldn't be the first time I've had issues to fix. And yes, sure enough, no Display Port signal to the monitor. Tried the usual tricks to no avail. Tried a HDMI cable to no avail. Noticed the EVGA cards fans were at max RPM and none of its rgb LED's on. Immediately suspected the infamous "red LED of death" issue that plagued some EVGA 3090 cards, but no LED lit on the card.

Deciding the issue was probably the card, I tried my old card. Nope, same issue and Q Code on the board that suggested VGA issue. 

Getting frustrated by this time and experiencing urges to take it for a 10 minute stroll to the nearby bay and drop it in the ocean. Put the 3090 back in and decided to call it a day and have another bash tomorrow and do the Asus BIOS flashback trick.

Browsing the issue on my phone and came across something new to try. Fired up the PC and before I could try it... the PC sprang into life and presented me with the BIOS.

Reseating the card may have helped but in which case how come it didn't work when I put my old card in.

Mysterious things these PC's.

Amen to that.

I've got about 20 years experience building PCs but they never fail to find new ways to test and frustrate you!

If I had the technical knowhow, I would revamp the whole way PC hardware is designed and connected. I've no doubt I would become a multi-millionaire, but don't we all have great ideas that will never see the light of day?😄

 

One of my favourite 'fixes' when something goes wrong is to boot to Windows Safe Mode, shut down and reboot. Amazing how many things that solves. Sadly, not my current issue of course!🙄

Even more experience for me, but still mystifying from time to time, as a result of the complexity we are dealing with probably. 

Doubt my brief issue was fixed by reseating the card, or when I installed my old card it would have fixed it. I suspect it was related to a motherboard glitch.  I did poke the CMOS reset button while the old card was installed, still didn't work though, but perhaps installing the new card afterwards and leaving it for 30 mins woke it up. Who knows, but I'll continue installing software today and run some stress tests.

I'm just grateful I didn't have an issue like you are dealing with... yet!

 

I've just run Cinebench R23 at my beloved NH-D15S hit 97 degrees on one core. 😁 🥵

 

21 hours ago, martin-w said:

Finally, after months of messing about, I was today ready to fire up my new rig.

12900K

32gb GSkill DDR5

EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Gaming.

New monitor too.

Exciting stuff. However, whenever I fire up a new rig there's a degree of trepidation, wouldn't be the first time I've had issues to fix. And yes, sure enough, no Display Port signal to the monitor. Tried the usual tricks to no avail. Tried a HDMI cable to no avail. Noticed the EVGA cards fans were at max RPM and none of its rgb LED's on. Immediately suspected the infamous "red LED of death" issue that plagued some EVGA 3090 cards, but no LED lit on the card.

Deciding the issue was probably the card, I tried my old card. Nope, same issue and Q Code on the board that suggested VGA issue. 

Getting frustrated by this time and experiencing urges to take it for a 10 minute stroll to the nearby bay and drop it in the ocean. Put the 3090 back in and decided to call it a day and have another bash tomorrow and do the Asus BIOS flashback trick.

Browsing the issue on my phone and came across something new to try. Fired up the PC and before I could try it... the PC sprang into life and presented me with the BIOS.

Reseating the card may have helped but in which case how come it didn't work when I put my old card in.

Mysterious things these PC's.

I am pretty much have to same hardware to some extent but haven't start building yet. I started to go with the Evga RTX 3090 but decided instead to go with the founder addition  since it was at MFSP and the opportunity to get it.

Right now I am waiting to get my cabinet. I am very picky on that since the cabinet selection are not to my liking. I don't like none of them. Either there too much of one thing (RGB) and other nonsense but don't address my practical needs or they everything to small to accommodate by board or too gigantic to fit in the room.😉 Too much emphasis spent on the aesthetics and which gamers may find it cool, but its a lot of power wasted and more things that can fail that could distract from the purpose the cabinet is suppose to serve in the first place. I don't mind light inside, I think is ok just so you have some indication that things are working but all the other bs they can have.   

I am looking forward starting my build.

  

15 minutes ago, BobFS88 said:

opportunity to get it.

Right now I am waiting to get my cabinet. I am very picky on that since the cabinet selection are not to my liking. 

 

Yep, me too. I had a Phanteks Evolv TG, Love the case, great for air cooling but not so good for radiators due to the restricted intake. Couldn't find any case I liked as much so opted for the Evolv X. An updated version of the TG but with superior airflow.

 

Don't worry too much about the adresable RGB stuff, it can all be turned off in the software. Or alternatively, don't plug in the 3 pin aRGB cable or SATA power to the LED's. Or, if you like subtle lighting you can set it to that in the software.

One thing that does annoy me a bit is the weight of modern enclosures, mine weighs a ton.

Need to make up my mind now if the D15S is enough or not. I'll probably just set an AVX offset as R23 runs AVX and pushes CPU's to the limit. Not reflective of what we normally do with our PC's. I may play with the voltage too, as auto rules are sometimes a bit over the top.

2 hours ago, martin-w said:

Yep, me too. I had a Phanteks Evolv TG, Love the case, great for air cooling but not so good for radiators due to the restricted intake. Couldn't find any case I liked as much so opted for the Evolv X.

Ha, You too was looking at the Phanteks. Iol I was as well although I would be a little embarrass as to what cabinet I was eyeballing. But before I get into that, I was originally looking at the Thermaltake Core X71 Tempered Glass edition. It would have been the perfect cabinet for me, had it not been for the fact that it only supports up to an ATX motherboards and not the EATX which is what I need. I could have use it if I wanted to and didn't care for the tight fit and cabling may have been problematic. I would have rather have a little more room to be able to get at things. But it had everything with the 5 1/4 in fronten mounts and top area for radiator and fans with the bottom side for fans as well. Very low profile style the way I like, not too flashy.

So after looking around, I came across Phanteks and they have some rather interesting cabinets. I was looking at the Enthoo 719 and thought that might due the trick. The problem with that cabinet is that it does not have an opening for top mount exhaust fans even though they say that you can mounting there. I would like to have an opening it does not provided. So I was looking at the Enthoo Elite which does some with opening in the top. (why they couldn't do that for the 719 is beyond me.) I like the sleekness of the cabinet, looks impressive but not overly flashy. Lots of room, almost too much and you need a forklift to carry it. It's unbelievable that they ship it in the flight case and it would be a dead give away to my wife, if she knew what have paid for it, if I got. But I am still looking at it only because it has all of what I need and some and I can tailor it into the way I wanted. I even show it too her and she thought it was a slick looking cabinet. So at I have the looks going for me. 

I was hoping they would come out with something in between to two models but so far I haven't heard anything yet.  However, these days, that just like wishing for miracle that someone would even bother to think, they way they want to design these cabinets today. It all about money and what would sales. 😃

Will see what happens. 

 

    

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31 minutes ago, BobFS88 said:

I came across Phanteks and they have some rather interesting cabinets. I was looking at the Enthoo 719 and thought that might due the trick. The problem with that cabinet is that it does not have an opening for top mount exhaust fans even though they say that you can mounting there. I would like to have an opening it does not provided.

 

You've been looking at all the enclosures I have. 😁 Yes, that's right, the 719 just has vents on top, not an open mesh. Not sure how efficient it would be in practice. My EvolvX has enlarged vents on top which are superior to the "TG" version but yes, I'm dubious that would be optimal as an exhaust either. If I went water cooling I'd probably install the rad at the front of my EvolvX. Tests I have done have demonstrated that the airflow isn't too badly restricted at the front, despite the big aluminium slab of a panel. Phanteks have done a good job enlarging the side vents. Not optimal but better. 

 

31 minutes ago, BobFS88 said:

it would be a dead give away to my wife, if she knew what have paid for it, if I got.

 

😂 I'm divorced so don't have that issue.

Have you looked at the Corsair cases? 

Edited January 30, 20224 yr by martin-w

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On 1/29/2022 at 7:57 PM, 109Sqn said:

I've got about 20 years experience building PCs...

 

13 hours ago, martin-w said:

Even more experience for me,

It'll sound like one of those competition conversations but I realise I made a typo! That should have said 30 years.😁

 

13 hours ago, martin-w said:

I'm just grateful I didn't have an issue like you are dealing with... yet!

And hopefully you won't because it's been so difficult to find a logical progression in the troubleshooting. Ironic, isn't it, when fixing computer issues so often ends up being illogical?🙄

 

6 hours ago, pgde said:

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I think I have watch him before but take a look at it anyway, thanks

9 hours ago, martin-w said:

Have you looked at the Corsair cases?

Yes I have.

I actually I have the Obsidian series 750D airflow as my second system that i'm typing on. It is a low maintenance case if want to build the system and forget it. Why don't go with that one? I need room for the fans at the top. I spec my custom cooling for a configure 360 solution. With the 3 fans it will not fit with the 5 1/4 drive bays still in there and you can't separate them. But it's great for closed loop cooling solutions but if you're like me, I need more aggressive cooling and that's will require easy access for maintenance well. As you know we are dealing with the 12900k and that was what was required. I also looked at the 800D as well. Problem with that cabinet is that you have solid drive bays in front with no fan air flow from front to back. However there is lots of room similar to the Thermaltake case X71. The 650 has everything I want but its a mid tower, too small for my needs. 

I like the cabinets where the door just swings open to get inside for quick maintenances. I also like the vertical mount kits for the GPU with the riser cable option, none of those have that. 

13 hours ago, 109Sqn said:

It'll sound like one of those competition conversations but I realise I made a typo! That should have said 30 years.

 

😡 I've got 100 YEARS EXPERIENCE! Beat that!

 

6 hours ago, BobFS88 said:

I need more aggressive cooling and that's will require easy access for maintenance well. 

 

Oh right, you favour a custom loop. I'll be interested in your temps when you get around to building.

2 hours ago, martin-w said:

Oh right, you favour a custom loop. I'll be interested in your temps when you get around to building.

Absolutely

I will definitely share those number once I get the build going.  I can't wait to see how it will turn out.

BTW I am using the EKWB custom loop parts that was selected based on the EK-Quantum Power Kit D-RGB P360 without the RGB. 

The difference is the water block for the 1700 socket was not available in the real kit at the time back in November. But I able to purchase one, once it was available along with all the other parts based on the configuration that it suggested, then match inventory to the kit, to insure I have everything I need.

14 minutes ago, BobFS88 said:

Absolutely

I will definitely share those number once I get the build going.  I can't wait to see how it will turn out.

BTW I am using the EKWB custom loop parts that was selected based on the EK-Quantum Power Kit D-RGB P360 without the RGB. 

The difference is the water block for the 1700 socket was not available in the real kit at the time back in November. But I able to purchase one, once it was available along with all the other parts based on the configuration that it suggested, then match inventory to the kit, to insure I have everything I need.

 

Sounds great. I may join you with the Custom Loop scenario some time in the future. For now, according to the testing I've just done, the Noctua NH-D15 is functioning admirably. More details in the 12900K thread I started.