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Anyone here using the TrackClip PRO with their TIR4? I may be getting a TIR4 Pro for my birthday, wondering if the TClip is a "highly suggested" addition... What benefits does it offer using TIR4 PRO + Clip?

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Ooooooooooooo, man, you are in for a treat! I own the Track Clip 4 Pro with the Track Clip Pro: it's AWESOME!!! :) Don't get me started. Again... :(I recommend the TrackClip Pro: it's better than the older vector system. Read this review on Avsim, solely dedicated to the Clip, which says enough, I guess! ;)http://www.avsim.com/pages/0207/TrackClip/TrackClip.htmEDIT:BTW I do not like that 'I may be getting...'-part... You got to demand it! Now! Go for it! :(

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I've used the Vector Clip for 6 months and never, ever had an issue with it such as interference. It's on a cap. Can't get simpler than that. That Clip Pro looks strange. Either way, you're about to enter a whole new simming world! A world from which you'll never step back. Say bye-bye to 2D panels. :-wave

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that good eh? sweet :) That's always been my #1 problem with sim flying... having to use the keyboard or hat to pan... never been good at that... I like to just turn my head as I do in rl lol.Where'd ya'll purchase yours from?

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>that good eh? sweet :) That's always been my #1 problem>with sim flying... having to use the keyboard or hat to pan...> never been good at that... I like to just turn my head as I>do in rl lol.Well, than this is the thing for you! Really! It opens up a complete new world!>Where'd ya'll purchase yours from?I bought it in the Netherlands where I live. Don't know where you come from, so... you might want to try the Track IR site itself.http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/

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i should ask, anyone use it on a laptop? I'm hoping it'll mount ok to my laptop... if not, guess I'll just have to rig something lol

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I purchased mine through Naturalpoint. At the time they had and I believe they still have a 30 day money back tryout. But......... after 5 minutes you'll forget about returning it. I use the clips on the hat and never have a problem. I use my headset alot and having something clipped to it I would worry about it breaking, especially when it is not in use. I wouldn't want to unmount it constantly either to keep it safe. The hat clip is durable and works great. Try it first as the clip is way overpriced I think and is not any more accurate.And yes it will fit fine on a laptop. You'll be surprised at how small it actually is.... and oh yea... like everyone says you won't ever fly a 2D cockpit again and will wonder why you waited so long!

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TrackIR4 will mount onto laptops and monitors -- it's got a clever "claw" system that allows you to mount it onto anything. Although I am telling a white lie here: I never did get my own TrackIR to sit properly on my Hansol monitor, so I use a tiny piece of the Handyman's Secret Weapon: Duct Tape to keep the thing solid. Jeff ShylukAvsim Product Reviewer

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My TrackIR arrived just yesterday. I also deliberated over whether to get the clip; I ended up not getting one and it seems to work just fine without it. I haven't quite got used to the concept of moving my eyeballs in the opposite direction to my head yet but I'm sure that will come.My very first circuit with the thing went better than any before it (although my speed and height were all over the place at times because I was craning about looking at the view) -- I put this down to a) being able to look quickly to the left or right to get my bearings, and then back to the instrument panel, and :( just having a much stronger feeling of actually being in the plane, and having a better sense of where I am relative to the plane and where it is relative to the ground.I got mine from eBay, but I think the seller was affiliated with eDimensional as that's where it seems to have come from.Hope you enjoy it. :)

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I got my TrackIR Pro and the TrackClip PRO yesterday. I love the Clip - it works very well and is convenient. I can't say I like the TrackIR so far, though.I have the latest software for everything, and I'm running FSX sp1. Here are my concerns:1. While I'm flying and I look right to adjust the autopilot, my head, and consequently the view, move while I'm adjusting a knob. When it moves, obviously, the cursor moves off of the knob and accidentally click the knob next to it.2. I don't think I'm imagining this, but it's possible. I was watching planes roll in to my left as I sat waiting for take-off clearance. It seemed like the view was slowing panning back to the center, but I was not moving my head!3. Does anyone have any tips for calibration? My whole TrackIR experience really feels like I have a pair of pants on backwards and are two sizes too small. Sure, it's "cool" to look around, but it isn't practical to me yet.4. Can you assign the F12 function to a button on the CH yoke?There's a good chance I'll be able to get these resolved, but until then I prefer the 2D panels.

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yeah... i quit 2D pit years ago lol, I usually use 3D zoomed out a little, that should be nice since I wont have to move my head alot to get a change in direction.Can you change "sensitivity"? ie, a little move will make alot of change, or a large movement will do a little change?good to know about it mounting to laptops... :)

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>I have the latest software for everything, and I'm running FSX>sp1. Here are my concerns:First of all, you did change all presets to use the Track Clip Pro and not Vector? Quite an important step!>1. While I'm flying and I look right to adjust the autopilot,>my head, and consequently the view, move while I'm adjusting a>knob. When it moves, obviously, the cursor moves off of the>knob and accidentally click the knob next to it.I know what you mean. I always also bend forward (zoom in), which might help. You do know that you can freeze the view with F9 and unfreeze it F9 again? So look righ and bend foward, press F9 and you can do everything without problems. I've gotten used to the little movements although I also miss the button every now and then.BTW I own the RealAir SF260 now which has a novel way of turning the knobs, which completely eliminates the problem of clicking besides buttons, because you only need one click (and a drag after that). But that's OT really. ;)>2. I don't think I'm imagining this, but it's possible. I was>watching planes roll in to my left as I sat waiting for>take-off clearance. It seemed like the view was slowing>panning back to the center, but I was not moving my head!Doesn't ring a bell with me...>3. Does anyone have any tips for calibration? My whole TrackIR>experience really feels like I have a pair of pants on>backwards and are two sizes too small. Sure, it's "cool" to>look around, but it isn't practical to me yet.Well, I guess it's all a matter of persoanl preferences. I use the preset FLIGHT for everything (did you assign that one to FSX?) and never ever changed a single thing since...>4. Can you assign the F12 function to a button on the CH>yoke?AFAIK I think you can but er... trying will cost you nothing. ;)I also hope you will get your problems resolved. You would be the first one I 'know' that's not satisfied with the Track IR...

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Thanks for the suggestions! I can't wait to run home and give them a shot. I don't want to be your first. ;)

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If you're using the clip instead of the vector be sure to move the receiver toward the left side of your monitor. The tendency is to set it exactly in the middle of the monitor which works fine with the vector because it's centered on your head. The clip, however, is hanging on the left side of your head and it doesn't work as well if you leave the receiver centered.Just a thought.Enjoy the TrackIR! Welcome to the club!Dewey

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As the other poster said, the key to successful and fun TrackIR use is to pause and unpause. I have two buttons bound on my yoke to the TrackIR pause and centre functions - that way, I look around and whhen I get where I want to be I just pause the TrackIR, do my thing, unpause and return to the full panel view and pause again. It takes a little time but it becomes second nature.Andrew

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####, J van E beat me to it :-)>>1. While I'm flying and I look right to adjust the autopilot,>my head, and consequently the view, move while I'm adjusting a>knob. When it moves, obviously, the cursor moves off of the>knob and accidentally click the knob next to it.Like he said pausing the view is critical when fine tuning stuff. I assigned the middle mouse button for that purpose.>2. I don't think I'm imagining this, but it's possible. I was>watching planes roll in to my left as I sat waiting for>take-off clearance. It seemed like the view was slowing>panning back to the center, but I was not moving my head!I suspect that could be because the profile you use is too sensitive. See below...>3. Does anyone have any tips for calibration? My whole TrackIR>experience really feels like I have a pair of pants on>backwards and are two sizes too small. Sure, it's "cool" to>look around, but it isn't practical to me yet.I just use a modified profile I found on Naturalpoint's website. I find it less sensitive and more accurate than the default regular "Flight" profile. Go to http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/04-com...y-profiles.html and get the file FS 2004 - Optimized Flight - ******* Altuve. I've had good success with it.Zooming out helps. I only use the 100% zoom during pre-flight and shutdown, the rest of the time I set it at 75% or even 50% depending on the plane.Also it can be hard at first to remember to stop moving around in your chair, slumping, leaning, etc.>4. Can you assign the F12 function to a button on the CH>yoke?I have a CH yoke I assigned a button to it. You have go into the TrakIr software, then select the profile you use in the bottom section, click edit and then choose the "Hotkeys" tab. You can assign everything from there, joystick buttons, mouse buttons, keys, etc.>There's a good chance I'll be able to get these resolved, but>until then I prefer the 2D panels.Don't give up, it take a few flights to get used to it. Every comments I read before purchasing mine said so and it's true.Everybody's suggestions here should help a lot.-Erik T.

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>I have the latest software for everything, and I'm running FSX>sp1. Here are my concerns:Others have answered most of these (glad to know I can assign joystick buttons to the center and pause functions, I didn't know that!) but:>2. I don't think I'm imagining this, but it's possible. I was>watching planes roll in to my left as I sat waiting for>take-off clearance. It seemed like the view was slowing>panning back to the center, but I was not moving my head!I actually tried this last night and at first I thought I saw what you are seeing. But then I made a really concious effort not to move my head and the panning stopped. I think we probably have an instinct to move our head towards where our eyes are looking (i.e. the monitor, which has an unfortunate tendency to stay in the same place when you're moving the view with your head movements) and do so without even realising it.I'm reserving final judgement on the thing until I've put myself through some more "training", but so far it looks very, very good. :)

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Grab the profile called "OPTIMISED FLIGHT" off the NaturalPoint website in the support section. This is the best profile for Flightsim. Really nice centre zone, stays steady for knob turning etc.

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I ran a couple of flights last night using all of your suggestions with the exception of flight profile that was mentioned above, and I had great success!!Here are all of the adjustments I made that helped me go from feeling like a drunken sailor looking the bedroom in a dark house to almost like actually being in a cockpit:1. The locking and unlocking will take some getting used to, but I could tell right away that it was a big help. 2. Setting my profile to a dead zone. I found that while taking off and landing, having that dead zone helped a lot when I used my CH pedals. My head would move slightly when I applied pressure on the pedals without the dead zone and it would throw my sense of the center out of control.3. I did end up moving my sense away from the center of the monitor so it's lined up with the TrackClip Pro and that helped with issues I had looking left!4. I assigned the Center and Lock buttons to the two button on the left side of my CH Yoke. It's almost like they were put there just for this function5. While flying the CRJ-700 I was zoomed out to 0.60. That seemed to help, too.I will try that profile two of you mentioned tonight.Thanks everyone for your suggestions!I'm now seeing what everyone is raving about with TrackIR. It's going to take a handful of flights once I settle on an optimal profile to get used to it, but I'm definitely past the point of wanting to return it and now at the point where I can't wait to get home and play!

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>I'm now seeing what everyone is raving about with TrackIR. >It's going to take a handful of flights once I settle on an>optimal profile to get used to it, but I'm definitely past the>point of wanting to return it and now at the point where I>can't wait to get home and play!That's good news! :) Now I can keep on saying EVERYBODY loves the Track IR Pro! :(

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I like the "Progressive" profile that comes with TrackIR, myself, just in case you want to try different profiles. That, and you can easily customize your own. I find it's actually better to eliminate the dead zone as much as possible -- it prevents the TrackIR from "snapping" around when I swivel my view. That's just a personal preferece, though. Jeff ShylukAvsim Product Reviewer

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Just for the record - there is at least one person not satisfied with TrackIR-4, and that is ME. After following this thread for a day or two, I decided to give it a whirl.Easy ordering, quick delivery and painless installation. However, after an hour or two, it became apparent, that either I am not capable of setting it up properly or that the total concept is not to my liking. After a 24 hour break, I gave it another try but came to the same conclusion. I am purposely not going into details because I have no quarrel with the product itself - it appears to perform as advertised. I also found the suggestions in this thread to be helpful, particularly those suggesting that a took a bit of time to get used to. I don't feel that I can wait that long and have removed from my system.Unfortunately, I bought it direct from the maker so there is no return.Bob

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Pity you won't go into details because I really wonder what's the problem. Are you sure you got it setup propperly? And since you can't return it, why not give it some more time...? And what's the use of this post, for other people who think about buying it, if you don't say what's wrong with it... (wonder why you can't wait that long if you are stuck with the product anyway)? You say you have no quarrel with the product itself and at the same time you dont like it. Quite confusing.

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I agree that you should at least tell us what you don't like about it. I might even have experienced the same thing and gotten around it, for example, lighting problems.Anyway, if you bought it from Natural Point, they have a satisfaction guarantee. Contact them and I'm sure they'll let you send it back.

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