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How am I supposed to correctly import a flight plan?

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How do I import this route into Pilot2ATC including the SID, STAR and the APPROACH?

LEAL/10 MITO3A MITOS B46 RUXET DCT IB900 RUXE3V LEIB/DEMEV.I06-Z

1. If I import this route from a LNM exported .PLN file, the SID and STAR are both missing but the APPROACH is included (see .pln in spoiler tag below)
2. If I import this route from SimBrief, the APPROACH is missing (I understand why)
3. If I import this route from the clipboard (Navigraph), the STAR is missing (LEAL/10 MITO3A MITOS B46 RUXET RUXE3V LEIB/DEMEV.I06-Z)
4. If I import this route from a LNM export to clipboard (Navigraph), the SID, STAR and APPROACH are missing (LEAL N0196A150 MITO3A MITOS UN851 RUXET RUXE3V LEIB LEVC)

I have also asked the developer of LittleNavMap if they can help. See here 


Thanks,
Toby

PLN file with SID, STAR and APPROACH

Spoiler

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<SimBase.Document Type="AceXML" version="1,0">
    <Descr>AceXML Document</Descr>
    <FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
        <Title>LEAL to LEIB</Title>
        <FPType>VFR</FPType>
        <RouteType>Direct</RouteType>
        <CruisingAlt>13000</CruisingAlt>
        <DepartureID>LEAL</DepartureID>
        <DepartureLLA>N38° 17' 14.88",W0° 34' 1.68",+000142.00</DepartureLLA>
        <DestinationID>LEIB</DestinationID>
        <DestinationLLA>N38° 52' 21.99",E1° 22' 23.00",+000023.00</DestinationLLA>
        <Descr>LEAL, LEIB</Descr>
        <DeparturePosition>NW PARKING 0</DeparturePosition>
        <DepartureName>Allicante-Elche</DepartureName>
        <DestinationName>Ibiza</DestinationName>
        <AppVersion>
            <AppVersionMajor>11</AppVersionMajor>
            <AppVersionBuild>282174</AppVersionBuild>
        </AppVersion>
        <ATCWaypoint id="LEAL">
            <ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N38° 16' 56.00",W0° 33' 29.00",+000142.00</WorldPosition>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>LEAL</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="RW10">
            <ATCWaypointType>User</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N38° 17' 4.27",W0° 34' 29.99",+000142.00</WorldPosition>
            <DepartureFP>MITO3A</DepartureFP>
            <RunwayNumberFP>10</RunwayNumberFP>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="ALT3">
            <ATCWaypointType>User</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N38° 16' 29.21",W0° 30' 40.68",+002291.30</WorldPosition>
            <DepartureFP>MITO3A</DepartureFP>
            <RunwayNumberFP>10</RunwayNumberFP>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="User_WP">
            <ATCWaypointType>User</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N38° 18' 36.69",W0° 26' 21.32",+005106.26</WorldPosition>
            <DepartureFP>MITO3A</DepartureFP>
            <RunwayNumberFP>10</RunwayNumberFP>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="SUMMO">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N38° 21' 37.20",W0° 16' 54.30",+010731.87</WorldPosition>
            <DepartureFP>MITO3A</DepartureFP>
            <RunwayNumberFP>10</RunwayNumberFP>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAORegion>LE</ICAORegion>
                <ICAOIdent>SUMMO</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="MITOS">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N38° 26' 58.00",W0° 0' 49.40",+013000.00</WorldPosition>
            <DepartureFP>MITO3A</DepartureFP>
            <RunwayNumberFP>10</RunwayNumberFP>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAORegion>LE</ICAORegion>
                <ICAOIdent>MITOS</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="BRUNO">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N38° 36' 29.90",E0° 29' 0.00",+013000.00</WorldPosition>
            <ATCAirway>B46</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAORegion>LE</ICAORegion>
                <ICAOIdent>BRUNO</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="RUXET">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N38° 40' 7.71",E0° 40' 30.00",+013000.00</WorldPosition>
            <ATCAirway>B46</ATCAirway>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAORegion>LE</ICAORegion>
                <ICAOIdent>RUXET</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="IB900">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N38° 50' 5.53",E0° 49' 42.90",+012475.26</WorldPosition>
            <ArrivalFP>RUXE3V</ArrivalFP>
            <RunwayNumberFP>6</RunwayNumberFP>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAORegion>LE</ICAORegion>
                <ICAOIdent>IB900</ICAOIdent>
                <ICAOAirport>LEIB</ICAOAirport>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="SISDU">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N38° 53' 53.02",E0° 58' 44.83",+010000.00</WorldPosition>
            <ArrivalFP>RUXE3V</ArrivalFP>
            <RunwayNumberFP>6</RunwayNumberFP>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAORegion>LE</ICAORegion>
                <ICAOIdent>SISDU</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="IB911">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N38° 49' 28.07",E1° 1' 46.31",+008833.42</WorldPosition>
            <ArrivalFP>RUXE3V</ArrivalFP>
            <RunwayNumberFP>6</RunwayNumberFP>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAORegion>LE</ICAORegion>
                <ICAOIdent>IB911</ICAOIdent>
                <ICAOAirport>LEIB</ICAOAirport>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="IB912">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N38° 47' 34.52",E0° 57' 15.42",+007902.23</WorldPosition>
            <ArrivalFP>RUXE3V</ArrivalFP>
            <RunwayNumberFP>6</RunwayNumberFP>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAORegion>LE</ICAORegion>
                <ICAOIdent>IB912</ICAOIdent>
                <ICAOAirport>LEIB</ICAOAirport>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="IB913">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N38° 44' 44.06",E0° 53' 53.14",+007000.00</WorldPosition>
            <ArrivalFP>RUXE3V</ArrivalFP>
            <RunwayNumberFP>6</RunwayNumberFP>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAORegion>LE</ICAORegion>
                <ICAOIdent>IB913</ICAOIdent>
                <ICAOAirport>LEIB</ICAOAirport>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="IB930">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N38° 41' 25.60",E0° 56' 9.09",+006161.71</WorldPosition>
            <ArrivalFP>RUXE3V</ArrivalFP>
            <RunwayNumberFP>6</RunwayNumberFP>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAORegion>LE</ICAORegion>
                <ICAOIdent>IB930</ICAOIdent>
                <ICAOAirport>LEIB</ICAOAirport>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="DEMEV">
            <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N38° 43' 12.70",E1° 0' 14.60",+005344.02</WorldPosition>
            <ArrivalFP>RUXE3V</ArrivalFP>
            <RunwayNumberFP>6</RunwayNumberFP>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAORegion>LE</ICAORegion>
                <ICAOIdent>DEMEV</ICAOIdent>
                <ICAOAirport>LEIB</ICAOAirport>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
        <ATCWaypoint id="LEIB">
            <ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType>
            <WorldPosition>N38° 52' 21.99",E1° 22' 23.00",+000067.00</WorldPosition>
            <SuffixFP>Z</SuffixFP>
            <ApproachTypeFP>ILS</ApproachTypeFP>
            <RunwayNumberFP>6</RunwayNumberFP>
            <ICAO>
                <ICAOIdent>LEIB</ICAOIdent>
            </ICAO>
        </ATCWaypoint>
    </FlightPlan.FlightPlan>
</SimBase.Document>
 

 

Edited by toby23

Ryzen 5800X3D, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, Windows 11
Link to my: Dynamic Flight Dispatch Tool

  • Author

The formatting in #4 comes from exporting the route to the clipboard in LittleNavMap. Pilot2ATC does not currently offer an import option for this format which would be SO helpful as that is where I have to export the route from for the GTN units, either TDSXi GTN750 or the PMS module and it would make life much easier. I don't recognise the N0196A150 section either but am sure the developer could explain.

As always, thank you Dave. Pilot2ATC is the best ATC out there!

Edited by toby23

Ryzen 5800X3D, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, Windows 11
Link to my: Dynamic Flight Dispatch Tool

  • Author

@Dave-Pilot2ATC, the developer of LittleNavMap, Alex, has asked if Pilot2ATC has it's own Flightplan format?
He would be willing to add an additional export format to his software which would be a huge help and allow the export/import of more complicated VFR and IFR flightplans from LittleNavMap to Pilot2ATC without error.

 

Edited by toby23

Ryzen 5800X3D, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, Windows 11
Link to my: Dynamic Flight Dispatch Tool

  • Commercial Member

The P2A "export" format would be what results when you Save the flight plan.  It creates an XML file with the route and all procedures, cruise altitude, etc. so it can be loaded using the Load button with all the details.

I suspect if you email a copy of your Saved sample flight plan to the LNM dev, he could create his export from that and then a "Load" in P2A would bring it in.

Dave

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