Which weather programs do you use for MSFS?

[Ray Proudfoot 9,048]

6 minutes ago, Stiller Water said:

That is exactly my problem: I want to re-fly a trip to Oceania I made in Feb/March, or anticipate a flight I may make in another February. I can not use live weather for that.

Therein lies the problem of Live Weather only. Other sims that are compatible with Active Sky can setup for that weather on that date.

[fppilot 4,409]

5 hours ago, fppilot said:

I continued to fall back on REX WF when needed

Well today was another day. Live weather was a close match.---- Until I neared my destination of KBJC Rocky Mountain, Denver.   From about 60 out ATIS and depicted weather matched on clouds and rain, but did not match reported wind direction 270, or altimeter 30.04.  ATIS was feeding me 090 and 29.86 and incorrect runway.  Reached back for REX WF and more of the same.  REX and ATIS wind direction and pressure were a closer match, but cloud and rain depicton did not match at all.  *&(&^%**()^&%(*

I loaded LIve Weather back in for the depiction, still getting ATIS well off on winds and pressure.  12 minutes later when turning on final I listened to ATIS again (LW) and this time it was all representative, including active RWY.   

I will keep both close at hand.

[Alvega 2,126]

2 hours ago, fppilot said:

Well today was another day. Live weather was a close match.---- Until I neared my destination of KBJC Rocky Mountain, Denver.   From about 60 out ATIS and depicted weather matched on clouds and rain, but did not match reported wind direction 270, or altimeter 30.04.  ATIS was feeding me 090 and 29.86 and incorrect runway.  Reached back for REX WF and more of the same.  REX and ATIS wind direction and pressure were a closer match, but cloud and rain depicton did not match at all.  *&(&^%**()^&%(*

I loaded LIve Weather back in for the depiction, still getting ATIS well off on winds and pressure.  12 minutes later when turning on final I listened to ATIS again (LW) and this time it was all representative, including active RWY.   

I will keep both close at hand.

At airports where a METAR exists, ATIS is many times wrong because it reports the Meteoblue forecast instead of METAR. Looks like after the METAR implementation with SU7 they forgot to correct this. That's why I don't even bother with ATIS, I always check the METAR (unless there isn't one). There is a bug report about this on the official forum, but it only got 12 votes, looks like most people don't care about this, go figure.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/atis-not-matching-metar/564725

 

[fppilot 4,409]

3 hours ago, Alvega said:

That's why I don't even bother with ATIS, I always check the METAR

Ok. So in determining pressure adjusted field level (altimeter based) how do you determine which is real in the sim. Metar or ATIS.  Please recognize I am NOT speaking about the pressure reading in the RW, talking instead specifically about in the sim. What is the pressure in the sim?  The only method I am aware of is to land and then press the "B" key.  But then you landed without knowing and did that after the fact.  Just not right, and badly needed to be corrected about one week after the August 2020 release. And still.........

Weather is one of the most critical influences on aviation (check my footer below), and seems that Asobo has after nearing three years since release has not elevated it to its appropriate level of importance.

[Alvega 2,126]

14 minutes ago, fppilot said:

Ok. So in determining pressure adjusted field level (altimeter based) how do you determine which is real in the sim. Metar or ATIS.  Please recognize I am NOT speaking about the pressure reading in the RW, talking instead specifically about in the sim. What is the pressure in the sim?  The only method I am aware of is to land and then press the "B" key.  But then you landed without knowing and did that after the fact.  Just not right, and badly needed to be corrected about one week after the August 2020 release. And still.........

Weather is one of the most critical influences on aviation (check my footer below), and seems that Asobo has after nearing three years since release has not elevated it to its appropriate level of importance.

The pressure you get by pressing the B keyin the runway is the same as the Metar. I don't understand what you mean by this "But then you landed without knowing and did that after the fact". ATC gives me the pressure before I land, usually Pilot2ATC but default ATC too. You mean you are not using ATC?

[fppilot 4,409]

10 minutes ago, Alvega said:

The pressure you get by pressing the B keyin the runway is the same as the Metar. I don't understand what you mean by this "But then you landed without knowing and did that after the fact". ATC gives me the pressure before I land, usually Pilot2ATC but default ATC too. You mean you are not using ATC?

Actually, if you read my previous message, I asked you a question.  Throw out Pilot2ATC.  Not part of the discussion. You have two choices on what to rely on when approaching to land.  MSFS ATIS?  Or real world metar?  Which is the sim actually using?  Which of those two?  You are in the approach in IMC.  Which do you have confidence that the sim is throwing at you for altimeter setting?  MSFS ATIS?  Or metar?

Edited June 13, 2023 by fppilot

[Alvega 2,126]

1 hour ago, fppilot said:

Actually, if you read my previous message, I asked you a question.  Throw out Pilot2ATC.  Not part of the discussion. You have two choices on what to rely on when approaching to land.  MSFS ATIS?  Or real world metar?  Which is the sim actually using?  Which of those two?  You are in the approach in IMC.  Which do you have confidence that the sim is throwing at you for altimeter setting?  MSFS ATIS?  Or metar?

You had the answer to that question in my first post, ATIS is bugged, I completely ignore it. Even if the ATIS pressure may be the same as Metar sometimes, the sky condition and visibility is almost always wrong, same for active runways, etc. Metar is always correct. Obviously if ATIS is reporting based on Meteoblue forecast and the weather when landing is based on Metar, I think it's easy to understand it's Metar you should use.

Edit: Just saw a Navigraph dev saying on their Discord that they have plans to bring the Simbrief ATIS (Real world) to their charts app. This will be good.

Edited June 13, 2023 by Alvega

[Bobsk8 12,887]

Live weather, that is all I have ever used. 

[fppilot 4,409]

12 hours ago, Alvega said:

You had the answer to that question in my first post, ATIS is bugged, I completely ignore it. Even if the ATIS pressure may be the same as Metar sometimes, the sky condition and visibility is almost always wrong, same for active runways, etc. Metar is always correct. Obviously if ATIS is reporting based on Meteoblue forecast and the weather when landing is based on Metar, I think it's easy to understand it's Metar you should use.

Edit: Just saw a Navigraph dev saying on their Discord that they have plans to bring the Simbrief ATIS (Real world) to their charts app. This will be good.

You are still missing my question.  When there is a significant difference bewteen ATIS and metar, have you used the B key and verified which pressure the sim is actually using once on the ground?  Not when airborn.  Instead after landing.  I have a reason for being that specific.

[Alvega 2,126]

42 minutes ago, fppilot said:

You are still missing my question.  When there is a significant difference bewteen ATIS and metar, have you used the B key and verified which pressure the sim is actually using once on the ground?  Not when airborn.  Instead after landing.  I have a reason for being that specific.

Ok, I quit. You are a hard guy to help, I had noticed that before. Good luck.

[fppilot 4,409]

46 minutes ago, Alvega said:

Ok, I quit. You are a hard guy to help, I had noticed that before. Good luck.

Help? I asked for none.  Just asked a question that is still unanswered.....