19 hours ago, kingm56 said:

I am a developer and my market data supports PMDGs, aerosofts, etc comments. Everything I stated is factually accurate.  

The emotion is not necessary as the large companies (eg PMDG, Aerosoft, etc) are unlikely to develop an eight 340 based on previous stated comments. However, a smaller company could develop the  340 to catch 100% of that market as there’s no competition.

What market data? When and where can I find these polls? Please point me to them. In the meantime-

 

Couple more points to put to you developers that for some strange and bewildering reason, are refusing to develop the most popular airliners.

 

DISCLAIMER: Nothing is meant with the intent to harm anyone's egos or to offend anyone. I am making this final post to really try and understand the logic of the MSFS veteran developers...

 

1. You say that lthe biggest developers such as PMDG and Aerosoft are unlikely to develop an A340. This baffles us. may we ask why? Genuinely asking. Why? Do they not like making hefty, lucrative profits? Or are they waiting for smaller development teams to start these projects only to then finally realise how massive the market are for each airliner and then announce theyll give us their version of the same a/c at the same time as the smaller devs? (Seems to be a pattern emerging given recent examples).

Please help me understand. They don't think tthe planes will sell well? You have not even given a reason so what else are we meant to do but assume? Do we assume that you cannot get your hands on the data or it is too hard because as silly as that sounds, mate...it is one of the most requested aircraft on all forums, YouTube etc. So, Why? The A340 was one of only two quad jet families. The A340 and B747. The only two jumbo quads we have ever had in Commercial aviation prior to the A380's launch. Whatever excuses that are being used to justify the neglect of the A340, must be applied to the 747, A380, B767 alike.

 

2. The A340 was not only one aircraft. There was four of these monsters in one family with the two most popular being the -300 and -600 respectively. I was told that they also had a lot of character, after speaking with pilots who flew them. Are you developers of simulating Commercial airliners, trying to make out that the 380 (decent number made) produced A340-300 and A340-600 were not as iconic as the 777's are, if not more now especially that they are a rarity? 

 

3. Finally. There is absolutely no way, you can be playing down the A340 as if it is not worth the investment when the company you say you have close ties to spent time, energy and resources developing one of the most niche and unpopular (beloved by those passionate about vintage airliners but the overall MS Flight Sim community-not just the portion who prefers old birds but the vast array of the overall populous did not want nor bought) aircraft, the DC-6. Hardly anyone bought it in comparisonto the 777, 747 and 737. But then again this leads me to point four.

 

4. I remembered years and years ago when I read people questioning why PMDG did the DC6 when there were 757s 767s and 787s still missing from the sim, there was a few comments made along the lines of. "Developers make aircraft that they have an affinity for/a liking for/soft spot for/links to". And recently, on a YT comment section, someone made a response claiming that yet again. That somehow, legacy devs will make planes THEY want to make and not planes that the mass community HAVE long been asking for. Is that good business? Or should I focus on the other excuse-it no longer flies (it does and by that same admission, this excuse should be applied to all vintage and classic birds then) so there is no point.

 

So, just to get this straight. Instead of a developer "business"-"company" (aim is to make healthy profits) doing everything they can to push top-notch, quality products of the most popular and sought after airliners out to the masses of people waiting years to hand over their hard earned £60, £70, £80, £90 or even £100 for each aircraft, even for each variant of the most popular airliners the community all want such as the:

 

A340-300/600

A350-All

A380 (finally a dev has picked up the slack on this one)

B757 (thank you Bluebird Simulations)

B767 (still nothing)

B787 (QW has disappeared and no one else has announced)

...they'd rather leave these mega-markets for smaller companies to undertake? That is good business?

 

One look at X-Plane and you can see which airliners are the most popular. Toliss A340 is up there and no. I am reluctant to go due to the inferior graphics but I will have you know had that not been a problem, I'd have ditched MSFS way back in 2013.

If any dev is offended ir had thwir egos dented, make a poll then. Include the above mentioned list of airliners (make sure to include the unpopular A300 which will only be biught as a substitute due to the fact that we do not have any heavies currently) and ask the community to select their top three. I guarantee you the A340 will be near the top and the A300 will be rock bottom.

 

So to conclude: what do you know.

 

The A340 IS very popular among the OVERALL FS community alonside the 757, 767, 787, A350 and A380

 

Devs are unwilling to ask the community what they actually want and are ego driven with the thought that we, PAYING customers should be grateful, while they bank on still having a monopoly on the overall FS market.

 

I'm happy to be proven wrong but until we have tangible reasons as to why you guys have been neglecting our favourite airliners for years, speculation is all one can conjure.

 

Now...who wants to insult me with immature antics rather than offer detailed opinions...feel free. 🤣

 

Edited June 26, 20232 yr by Coolieboy
Grammar, again. Too hasty

You probably will turn to profit by build a A340 sim (as Toliss already does), but in the mean time, you could put that effort into build something more popular, you'll profit more, so then develop a A340 means losing money for business.

And BTW the system between -2/300 to -5/600 is too different so it's basically 2 set of aircraft to develop, meanwhile I'll keep asking Toliss for a -300🤣

Edited June 26, 20232 yr by C2615

5 hours ago, C2615 said:

You probably will turn to profit by build a A340 sim (as Toliss already does), but in the mean time, you could put that effort into build something more popular, you'll profit more, so then develop a A340 means losing money for business.

I agree. The A340 isn't the most popular airliners. I'd say the A350, B787, 744 and especially the 777 will all be more popular, admittedly and will sell more.

 

As for the A340 making a loss, I respectfully disagree. If developers can choose to wholeheartedly back an       MD-80, A300 and DC-6 project, spending time and resources doing so, the far more popular A340 series would bring better results imho.

As for differing systems between the 200/300 vs 500/600, I don't recall there being any major changes in the actual meat and bones of the aircrafts other than implementation of a few minor things such as the tail and gear cameras to help taxiing. The engines also. I'm sure the wings were strengthened to accept a higher TOW, not to mention the main landing bogeys (the 4 wheels in the middle instead of 2) but correct me if I am wrong. Oh and ofc, those monstrous quad engine upgrades that are the Trent 500's.🫡