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Problem doing MJS Dash Q400 tutorials

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I have the Majestic Dash Q400 pilot edition in P3D5.4. I have found two tutorials for it. One called sample flight and one Simulated Delivery and Advanced Tutorial Flight
CYZD – KEWR. My problem is with programming the FMS. Waypoints and airways don't exist to be selected in the FMS. One example in the sample flight I should enter a waypoint called OO but there are none in the vicinity of where I fly. In the second advanced tutorial I am supposed to select an airway called V252 going from YYZ and according to the tutorial there should be a list of airways to choose from. But for me the FMS states there are none going from YYZ.
First I started a subscription of Navigraph and updated my FMS data where the Q400 was listed. But after that the same problem. And when I open navigraph charts and look at YYZ I see no airway passing that point and none which name starta with a letter V. Instead they start with letter Q. This makes no sense to me. How to finish tese tutorials ?

Hello jfri,

I did a quick test with the Pro version.
CYDZ CYUL and noticed the waypoint OO is an NDB 3000+ NM away.

So, just do the route without OO.

For any SID or STAR etc just select the current one in your CDU list.

Note: I also use Navigraph.

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Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell  PP-ASEL KDTW

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5 minutes ago, vonmar said:

Hello jfri,

 


I did a quick test with the Pro version.
CYDZ CYUL and noticed the waypoint OO is an NDB 3000+ NM away.

So, just do the route without OO.

I did so but then I encountered problem since there are no HABBS3 STAR to select

18 minutes ago, jfri said:

I did so but then I encountered problem since there are no HABBS3 STAR to select

I am trying to recall now.

I there a HABBS7 (a newer STAR) to select?

 

Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell  PP-ASEL KDTW

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7 minutes ago, vonmar said:

I am trying to recall now.

I there a HABBS7 (a newer STAR) to select?

 

Yes and I think I tried that but ended up with a very strange flight plan. Or maybe it was HABBS6. Now it is HABBS7. Could have changed after Navigraph update

19 minutes ago, jfri said:

Yes and I think I tried that but ended up with a very strange flight plan. Or maybe it was HABBS6. Now it is HABBS7. Could have changed after Navigraph update

Your tutor flight : CYZDKEWR


My tutor flight : CYDZ CYUL
CYZD - (dto - OO removed) - dto - TALEB - q921 - VERTI - dto - HABBS - star - CYUL 
The newest STAR in Navigraph / CDU data entry worked ok as I recall.

You would need to follow the flight plan text for your flight.

Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell  PP-ASEL KDTW

I just checked.

HABBS7 is the STAR for CYUL not your arrival into KEWR.

Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell  PP-ASEL KDTW

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37 minutes ago, vonmar said:

 


My tutor flight : CYDZ CYUL
CYZD - (dto - OO removed) - dto - TALEB - q921 - VERTI - dto - HABBS - star - CYUL 
The newest STAR in Navigraph / CDU data entry worked ok as I recall.

You would need to follow the flight plan text for your flight.

Yes this is the tutor flight I was talking about. When I select the STAR HABBS7 something seem to get weird. After HABBS my FMS shows MIGLO REDOO IGWUD EPMOK ARVIE and then HABBS again and after that XULTA

1 hour ago, jfri said:

Yes this is the tutor flight I was talking about. When I select the STAR HABBS7 something seem to get weird. After HABBS my FMS shows MIGLO REDOO IGWUD EPMOK ARVIE and then HABBS again and after that XULTA

Your flight from the first post is CYZD – KEWR ?

Maybe do a screenshot or two.

The STAR is correct. MIGLO REDOO IGWUD EPMOK ARVIE and then HABBS.

Your transition may be the problem.

Also IGWUD is wrong.

It should be IGVID.

 

Edited by vonmar

Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell  PP-ASEL KDTW

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26 minutes ago, vonmar said:

Your flight from the first post is CYZD – KEWR ?

Maybe do a screenshot or two.

The STAR is correct. MIGLO REDOO IGWUD EPMOK ARVIE and then HABBS.

Your transition may be the problem.

Also IGWUD is wrong.

It should be IGVID.

 

First post is both about CYZD-KEWR and CYZD-CYUL. I have problem in both of them.

IGVUD is it. If IGVID is correct why did it not got there when I selected the STAR HABBS7 ? I did not enter it manually.

4 minutes ago, jfri said:

First post is both about CYZD-KEWR and CYZD-CYUL. I have problem in both of them.

IGVUD is it. If IGVID is correct why did it not got there when I selected the STAR HABBS7 ? I did not enter it manually.

IGVUD is it : correct. I read it wrong looking at a map.

CYZD-CYUL : I did not see you mention it in the first post.

 

I had another look at the map.

"After HABBS my FMS shows MIGLO REDOO IGWUD EPMOK ARVIE and then HABBS again and after that XULTA "

Per the Tutor plan the FMS/CDU is doing what was requested.

It is a big Zig Zag.

Not the best plan.

You can edit the route to your liking.

 

 

 

 

Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell  PP-ASEL KDTW

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2 minutes ago, vonmar said:

CYZD-CYUL : I did not see you mention it in the first post

 

 

That tutorial was called sample flight

8 minutes ago, jfri said:

That tutorial was called sample flight

Well, it is an old tutor.

I had another look at the printed text.

The transition as I mentioned earlier could be the problem.

"The runway 06L is #1 in the list, type 1 and press Enter. Select STAR HABBS3 (#2). Select transition (we take #4 for RWY 06L)"

Did you have the transition as "RWY 06L" ?

Edited by vonmar

Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell  PP-ASEL KDTW

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2 minutes ago, vonmar said:

Well, it is an old tutor.

I had another look at the printed text.

The transition as I mentioned earlier could be the problem.

"The runway 06L is #1 in the list, type 1 and press Enter. Select STAR HABBS3 (#2). Select transition (we take #4 for RWY 06L)"

Did you have the transition as "RWY 06L" ?

But there was no HABBS3 option to select so I took HABBS7. And yes I selected rwy 06L

8 minutes ago, jfri said:

But there was no HABBS3 option to select so I took HABBS7. And yes I selected rwy 06L

"so I took HABBS7"

Yes, that is what I had suggested you do in one of my first posts.

Anyway, without an edit the tutor plan is as good as it can be.

Good like with you flight.

Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell  PP-ASEL KDTW

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