Skip to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

The AVSIM Community

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

Help with rudder sensitivity

Featured Replies

8 hours ago, Humpty said:

Maybe you start from here 

Robinson-R22-Beta-II-2024-03-26-21-18-24

I'ts little better but still far from comfortable.

I don't think that's a good curve at all. You are making the rudder much more sensitive (except for the initial dead zone, which can be good if there's some jitters in the controls at rest).

With that curve, the rudder reaches almost full deflection at just 40% pedals deflection.

"Society has become so fake that the truth actually bothers people".

  • Replies 37
  • Views 9.5k
  • Created
  • Last Reply
  • Author
3 hours ago, Murmur said:

I don't think that's a good curve at all. You are making the rudder much more sensitive (except for the initial dead zone, which can be good if there's some jitters in the controls at rest).

With that curve, the rudder reaches almost full deflection at just 40% pedals deflection.

Yeah think it's not good.

 

Ryzen 5 1600x - 16GB DDR4 - RTX 3050 8GB - MSI Gaming Plus

8 hours ago, Humpty said:

Yeah think it's not good.

Try something like this:

Qm3G0f0.jpeg

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Society has become so fake that the truth actually bothers people".

  • Exactly as per Murmur's suggestion !
     

Only difference in my setup is that I include a nullzone at the start of the curve...

Flying gliders since 1980

Flightsimming since 1992

AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)

Works nicely for me, thanks!

"It's ALL about Flying"

 

i7-9700k @5ghz | 32gb Gskill Ripjaw 5 DDR4 3000 | Nvidia RTX 4080 | W10 Pro | Samsung 32" 4K TV | Virpil Throttle & Pedals | Winwing Stick

  • Author

Will give this one a try.

Thanks Murmur

Ryzen 5 1600x - 16GB DDR4 - RTX 3050 8GB - MSI Gaming Plus

  • Author

Going to try it with the R22

Ryzen 5 1600x - 16GB DDR4 - RTX 3050 8GB - MSI Gaming Plus

41 minutes ago, Humpty said:

Going to try it with the R22

Just give me a call before you takeoff so that I can enter the Bunker....

Flying gliders since 1980

Flightsimming since 1992

AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)

6 hours ago, Humpty said:

Going to try it with the R22

Actually, for helicopters I use a different custom profile, and this curve for all 3 axes:

3lp9JuJ.jpeg

It's almost linear because in helicopters all flight controls are usually NOT centered while flying (unless the modeled helicopter has a trim system), so it's important to have a consistent sensitivity, whatever the flight controls positions.

The curves are however limited to 70% max deflection, in order to decrease the sensitivity of the joystick (or maybe even rudder pedals) compared to the full scale controls of a real helicopter. With this curve, you will lose max control deflections for all 3 axes, but in simulated helicopters this is usually not a problem. Unless you aren't able to reach max operating speed, in which case just increase max control deflection for pitch axis.

In X-Plane you can save custom profiles for each aircraft type, so for example you can make a specific profile that gets automatically loaded whenever you load an helicopter.

Edited by Murmur

"Society has become so fake that the truth actually bothers people".

  • Author

@Murmur

Thanks for the detailed info. Going to set it up tonight, long weekend this week.

 One question though not related to or maybe related to the the cyclic or the rotor rpm.

The default R22 tends to pitch up if I leave the cyclic, it  needs constant forward push, the center spring  from the stick has been removed and even the calibration is fine. 

 

Ryzen 5 1600x - 16GB DDR4 - RTX 3050 8GB - MSI Gaming Plus

  • Author
14 hours ago, jcomm said:

Just give me a call before you takeoff so that I can enter the Bunker....

Wilco. 

Ryzen 5 1600x - 16GB DDR4 - RTX 3050 8GB - MSI Gaming Plus

5 hours ago, Humpty said:

The default R22 tends to pitch up if I leave the cyclic, it  needs constant forward push, the center spring  from the stick has been removed and even the calibration is fine. 

It's the blowback effect (search for "blowback" in the following article for an explanation):

https://www.aircraftsystemstech.com/2017/06/helicopter-aerodynamics-of-flight.html?expand_article=1

"Society has become so fake that the truth actually bothers people".

I am going to give that curve a try Murmur !

Thx !

Flying gliders since 1980

Flightsimming since 1992

AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)

  • Author
12 minutes ago, jcomm said:

I am going to give that curve a try Murmur !

Thx !

Bunker time !

Ryzen 5 1600x - 16GB DDR4 - RTX 3050 8GB - MSI Gaming Plus

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Account

Navigation

Search

Search

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.