Hi there.. I use a Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle which has a 3 position Flap switch...down/off/up

Problem being that when selecting down or up to increment flaps by one stage, if you are  not fast enough to return it to OFF it sometimes sends multiple messages and flaps go fully down or up ! 
If timed right it works, but very fiddly in VR,..
I saw a very old thread elsewhere where they said they  used AAO to solve this but didnt detail how ..only that 
"I use A&O and assign Incremental Decrease and Incremental Increase to the Flap Switch."
I cant ask as its a closed thread..
any ideas how I can achieve it so that each down or up command ONLY sends one flap message..?  
Hope that makes sense, and thanks in advance !

 

I wouldn't use switches 22/23 for flaps. They are meant for planes having just up/down flap positions. I use 11/12 (the red on on the right side) for incremental flap movements. Can be easily configured in MSFS.

Thanks Andreas... Im already using those for something else , and as im always  in VR , I have a bit of "muscle memory " associated to where that red switch is and what it does LOL .. as  last resort I could , but as mentioned above seems somebody solved the switch 22/23 issue... 
hopefully Lorby_SI will have a way of making it work with AAO ..thanks again 

I understand.
Rereading the description of your problem it rather sounds like you have a repeat function activated. MSFS control settings "increment / decrement flaps" should work with the 22/23 switch the same way they work for 11/12 or any other switch combination.

9 hours ago, vsukpadman said:

if you are  not fast enough to return it to OFF it sometimes sends multiple messages and flaps go fully down or up ! 

That doesn't sound right. Something must be wrong with the switch then. AAO can only process events that it receives, it doesn't "invent" additional ones just like that. Sure that you haven't turned on "Repeat" by accident in the AAO button assignment?

I have no clue what this switch looks like and what it does, so I cannot recommend a course of action, sorry.

Maybe add a Combo button that you have to press in addition to flipping the switch? Or you will somehow have to make a script that only actuates the flap event when the right condition(s) are met. For example when the switch has been OFF for a while. Or maybe the "Skip" setting will help you, that only processes every other input?

No repeat activated ...its not even going through AAO right now..its simply set to "increment / decrement flaps".in FS 2020 .. seems something is odd about this switch as exactly my problem has been reported before ..

14 minutes ago, Lorby_SI said:

AAO can only process events that it receives, it doesn't

Its currently not even going through  AAO...didnt see why I needed to as it was simply a switch ..its only that somebody else mentioned EXACTLY this problem and said he solved it with AAO ..very weird.. the warthog is known for some weird switch behaviour
I saw a very old thread elsewhere where they said they  used AAO to solve this but didnt detail how ..only that 
"I use A&O and assign Incremental Decrease and Incremental Increase to the Flap Switch."
maybe simply doing that will fix the weird behaviour...makes no sense. !
 

Edited August 20, 20241 yr by vsukpadman

Strange! I use that switch combo for Gear up/down. No problems.

2 minutes ago, vsukpadman said:

Its currently not even going through  AAO...didnt see why I needed to as it was simply a switch ..its only that somebody else mentioned EXACTLY this problem and said he solved it with AAO ..very weird.. 

 

He probably wrote a script that solved his problem.

 I think the issue is that the switch needs to be MOMENTARY ..is that possible with AAO ?
yes looks like it...from another thread 

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We're talking about gradual extension/retraction here.

It has to be a switch that works only momentarily.

On the Hotas warthog, only switch 11/12 do that.

The other switches of the joystick will work only if you manually turn them on then off, if you keep the switch in position MSFS reads that as a continuous command."

Looks like I may need to change switches as suggested by @agutz

 

10 minutes ago, agutz said:

Strange! I use that switch combo for Gear up/down. No problems.

That makes sense..gear can only go Down or Up once...  flaps can keep retracting or extending till they are fully up or down. 

I just fired up MS2020 and indeed: Although I had experimentally set increase/decrease flaps in controls 22/23 puts flaps completely up or down. So as I suspected above this combo is useful only in some fighter planes having just two positions up/down.

Its a strange one isnt it ! ..thanks for confirming it ...  I may just swap to the switches you have suggested ...appreciate it ! 

1 hour ago, vsukpadman said:

 I think the issue is that the switch needs to be MOMENTARY ..is that possible with AAO ?

All switches are "momentary" in AAO. That is why there is the "Repeat - fast/medium/slow/adaptive" option - you only activate that when you want AAO to repeat the key down action while the switch is "on". Otherwise the event is sent only once.
What you describe above doesn't make sense to me. That is just not how the app works.

1. What exactly does your assignment look like in AAO?
2. Is there other software involved? Some tool that came with the device and where you can alter the behavior of the switches (=which may be resonsible for unexpected behavior)?

Edited August 20, 20241 yr by Lorby_SI

12 minutes ago, Lorby_SI said:

1. What exactly does your assignment look like in AAO?

As I explained in an earlier reply to you (you may have missed it) , its not actually ASSIGNED to AAO.. `I didnt see the need as it was a basic switch just linked to an FS action ...  so if all switches are momentary in AAO that would explain why simply assigning it via AAO fixes the issue in the post I quoted ... ?..does that make technical sense 
I dont use any other thrustmaster software..maybe its just factory programmed to NOT be momentary as flaps down/up may well be only 1 stage in the military jet it was designed for.. 
will try tomorrow and report back ..