What's the deal ?

I've $$ to spend and cannot buy ?

Is there an option to purchase on individual request ?

Cheers

From the product page:

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This product has reached end on live and therefore is not available for purchase. You can continue to receive support via email if you own this product already, please see our contact page for more information.

 

On 9/2/2024 at 5:37 PM, srcooke said:

From the product page:

.... SNIP

Well yeah... precisely why I raised this post... in any case "end of live" is not "end of life" but I do understand grammer can be a problem for non-native English.

A2A still have their products for sale, Orbx still have their products for sale and I could go on. In fact I just recently spent $$ with Orbx.

It's not as though I'm going to install into P3D v6.x (v4.5 & 5.3 in actuality).

So how about it @simbol ??

Yes you may not have been selling loads of this product given it's quite niche anyway, but I do certainly want to spend money with you.

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The costs of running the online store, online licensing code handling and online content hosting is much bigger than 1 or 2 copies sold per year.

Accordingly I had to stop using those services and stop selling it as I was losing money and resources thar I can put to use towards other things.

This is a product that was launched back in 2017, almost 8 years ago..

Thanks for your understanding.

Best,

R.

On 9/9/2024 at 8:58 AM, simbol said:

The costs of running the online store, online licensing code handling and online content hosting is much bigger than 1 or 2 copies sold per year.

Accordingly I had to stop using those services and stop selling it as I was losing money and resources thar I can put to use towards other things.

This is a product that was launched back in 2017, almost 8 years ago..

Thanks for your understanding.

Best,

R.

Sorry but you don't have my understanding, as I mentioned other devs don't seem to have such issues or have managed to apply work arounds.

According to your post it's around 2 and half years since last update and indeed confirmation of compatability for the version of P3D I'm using (5.3HF2) was posted on January 20, 2022.

AI Lights Reborn Pro version 1.36.0 has been released 1 2

By simbol, December 2, 2021   

• P3D 5.3

One wonders regarding the commitment to MSFS and it's constant series of updates and how the MSFS new release of 2024 will end up playing out  e.g. more abandoned products  in just a  few short years ?

Anyway... I've said my feelings.

On 9/14/2024 at 11:47 PM, Rogen said:

Sorry but you don't have my understanding, as I mentioned other devs don't seem to have such issues or have managed to apply work arounds.

According to your post it's around 2 and half years since last update and indeed confirmation of compatability for the version of P3D I'm using (5.3HF2) was posted on January 20, 2022.

AI Lights Reborn Pro version 1.36.0 has been released 1 2

By simbol, December 2, 2021   

• P3D 5.3

One wonders regarding the commitment to MSFS and it's constant series of updates and how the MSFS new release of 2024 will end up playing out  e.g. more abandoned products  in just a  few short years ?

Anyway... I've said my feelings.

Well let me put it to you this way, I am live in the UK.. rules for companies across the world are different from others, for example those companies that live in the US do not have the same TAX burden as those that live in EU.

For any company located and registered in the UK or EU, we are required to report all tax collected from online sales to each individual country. For an instance, if someone from Greece buys a product, I have to report the deduction and send the money to Greece, if someone from Germany same, if someone from Spain, same and so on.. add this to all EU countries, then Australia, then Switzerland with different rules all together.

For this to happen, I have to register my TAX code on each of these countries and perform monthly reports to each TAX authority. You can imagine the administration burden this causes, specially for 3rd party developers like me, which is a family business (Me and my Wife basically).. In order to avoid this burden, the only way forward is to use a software distribution agency in USA which would collect the money on my behalf with the transaction, take a commission (8% to 15%) and do the tax reporting on my behalf.

Since 2022 my sales on AIRLP were between zero to 3 copies a year, pretty much nothing.. and the agency collecting the money on my behalf requires a minimum numbers of sales or I get charged. Add to this the content hosting charges for the download and the charges to handle licenses keys. This were adding to a total sum of 2,000 usd a year for having no sales at all..

I run a healthy business, where ROI and funds should never be a problem in order to ensure current customers always receive support over the years and I don't have to close the business and leave everyone abandoned. Until this day, people that bought AILRP some times contact me via email and they still receive help, new license keys and support despite of the software not being up to sale due to reaching EOL (End of Life) we are talking almost 8 years ago now!. 

So although I appreciate your frustration and your rant, the reality is the P3D market is dead, there is no enough sales to continue running my online shop for P3D, or even fund new development for P3D. AIRLP took 2 years to be developed, making a new version for P3D V6 (because they changed all effect files and shaders) would take a minimum of 12 months and unfortunately I wouldn't see any return of investment for that time.

Now let's please move on, you can express all your feelings as much as you want, but sales dried out because the majority of the market decides it wants to do something else, we 3rd party developers have to adapt in order to survive.

I am very proud FSReborn is one of the very few firm that survived the hard and harsh times when all P3D users said, we not buying any more add-ons because MSFS is coming.. the community voted with their wallets and accordingly I managed to evolve, adapt and find a way to keep going.. many other 3rd party firms didn't managed.. and disapeared.

All the best to you,
Raul 

On 9/16/2024 at 8:49 PM, simbol said:

Well let me put it to you this way, I am live in the UK.. rules for companies across the world are different from others, for example those companies that live in the US do not have the same TAX burden as those that live in EU.

<SNIP>

All the best to you,
Raul 

A lecture on your Tax liablities, business acumen and state of the market is not what I'm talking about.

Yes LM's lack of vision hasn't helped build their enthusiast/entertainment market but then again they target, build and sell some pretty high priced training rigs like this, something MSFS cannot be utilised for in it's present state.

And a product will still function in the P3D version it was designed for as there is really no need to update to a later P3D version, unlike MSFS where updates are forced, must be tough to keep up with the constant update releases of MSFS and what with the MSFS2024 release also due in the next couple of months.

Since you've come to the conclusion you're not going to make any further money from your product on P3D why not make it a freebee as many other companies have done with their catalogues. Not everyone has the option to migrate to MSFS.

Or perhaps Orbx could help e.g.  //42 has legacy products for sale on Orbx.

Hmmm?

1 hour ago, Rogen said:

A lecture on your Tax liablities, business acumen and state of the market is not what I'm talking about.

Yes LM's lack of vision hasn't helped build their enthusiast/entertainment market but then again they target, build and sell some pretty high priced training rigs like this, something MSFS cannot be utilised for in it's present state.

And a product will still function in the P3D version it was designed for as there is really no need to update to a later P3D version, unlike MSFS where updates are forced, must be tough to keep up with the constant update releases of MSFS and what with the MSFS2024 release also due in the next couple of months.

Since you've come to the conclusion you're not going to make any further money from your product on P3D why not make it a freebee as many other companies have done with their catalogues. Not everyone has the option to migrate to MSFS.

Or perhaps Orbx could help e.g.  //42 has legacy products for sale on Orbx.

Hmmm?

The product reached end of live and is not for sale anymore, neither it will be converted in a freeware as this would also require time and development to remove all licensing, ensure it works, create new installers, put it for hosting somewhere, etc. and I do not have the required resources to do what you wish. 

Best of luck to you.
R.