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FSX Blurries v. X-plane 9 Non- Blurries

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1- Avid MSFS for 20+ years2- New PC3- Typical fsx blurries, all tweaks you can think of etc...4- Bought x-plane 9 last week5- yes, airports are not as detailed6- imported megasceneries into x-plane7- no blurries at all with x-plane 9result: if you want to fly just to fly and mainly look outside, switch to x-plane. i believe x-plane will surpass msfs in the years to come. oh ya, the support and developers are extremely friendly and supportive.tim

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ya right!do this -1) Take off from KLAX in a 737. After about 2 minutes, do a spot view and look around. Blurries. Thanks.Tim

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Maybe but Xplane doesnt have the same amount of processing power required, IE, much less objects to display. Let's see a pic of xplane too. Everyone always says all this stuff about xplane being so l33t but never post any pics.So anyway, here's my two pics, with an addon acft, which doesn't perform nearly as good as the defaults, but it is pretty good. For these shots I'm using 100% WOAI traffic and all settings quite high (autogen very dense, scenery 1m), but I set the weather to fair.Yeah so I only have 8-10 FPS, but after flying towards the downtown area at 150 kts, I don't see any super duper problem areas with regards to "the blurries."laxFairwx_sf260.jpglaxFairwx_sf260_city.jpg

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Considering that this is AVSIM's FSX forum, and adding that it's also provided as a public service, I would strongly encourage that this topic be kept civil! After all, it's kind of like me inviting you over for a dinner party, and all you can talk about is how good the Yankees are and how Derek Jeter is the best Yankee ever and should be the next President of the United States. I am a Mariners fan, I don't care much for the eastern ball teams, least of all those "Damned Yankees". So you can see where there might be friction. If you have facts to back up your conjectures, I say feel free to present them in a logical and respectful manner. As a reviewer, I am certainly curious to see a good comparison between flight sims. As a reader, I would not want to read a review that went, "product X is L33T!!1!, produxt Y SUXX0RZZZZ!!!1!", because I can see that the reviewer is introducing a lot of bias. Before you post, please be aware of where you are posting, what you wish to post, and who very, very kindly is providing the forum for you to post into. For the record, I do consider Derek Jeter to be an excellent ball-player, and he seems to do a lot of good for his community, which is also a plus. But I do cheer my head off when he strikes out to the M's! Jeff ShylukAssistant Managing EditorSenior Staff ReviewerAVSIM

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try a 737 for 2 minutes or fly your airplane to the mountains on the left. Your about 1 minute away from having blurries.see picture of where you have FSX blurries galore.

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What is the highest resolution of X-Planes ground textures? 1 m or 5 m?If 5 m (that's what it looks like on the screenshots at x-plane.com), then you should turn FSXs ground textures to this value and see if you still get blurries. 16fold texture size is a big strain for your graphic board (which btw. is not what I would recommend for a new-built FSX PC). Also, try to set the autogen density to similar values as in X-Plane (if I remember right, there is no autogen at all in Megasceneries).Please, try to compare apples with apples.Regards

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I just don't want to touch the fricken config settings. With a 2008 PC, I should be able to fly a 2006 game without issues. FSX was horrible!

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>try a 737 for 2 minutes or fly your airplane to the mountains>on the left. Your about 1 minute away from having blurries.>I'll do just as soon as I see your LAX pic....actually I'm quite curious, mainly because I've never seen LAX in X planeI'll try to keep it civil Jeff, L33T!!!!

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>With a 2008 PC, I should be able to fly a 2006 game>without issues.>>>VIDEO CARD: Nividia GeForce 6800 Ultra (488 MB Total Memory) >Processor: Intel® Pentium® D CPU 3.20GHz, 3199 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Are you kidding? Your hardware aint near 2008! No wonder your suffering from blurries.Ulf BThis hardware is from 2007!Core2Duo X6800 3.3GHz4GB RAM Corsair XMS2-8500C5BFG 8800GTX, Creative SB X-FiFSX Acc/SP2, Vista 32

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>I just don't want to touch the fricken config settings. With>a 2008 PC, I should be able to fly a 2006 game without issues.>FSX was horrible!Your PC isn't 2008. That video card is like 4 years old.The CPU certainly IS NOT from 2008, maybe late 2006.

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One point about X-Plane and performance which has not been noted so far in this thread is that if you try to push X-Plane's graphics/scenery settings beyond a level which it determines would degrade framerate performance on your system, it starts automatically injecting fog in the distance to reduce overall visibility and the number of objects and scenery it has to display in order to try and maintain the minimum performance.So blurries or fog are both just a factor of system/application configuration versus underlying performance capability of the system on which you run either of the products.Jeff

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>try a 737 for 2 minutes or fly your airplane to the mountains>on the left. Your about 1 minute away from having blurries.>>see picture of where you have FSX blurries galore.>I

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And all logic says this thread should end just here ;-)Ulf B

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>result: if you want to fly just to fly and mainly look>outside, switch to x-plane. i believe x-plane will surpass>msfs in the years to come. oh ya, the support and developers>are extremely friendly and supportive.>I love flying, and especially looking outside! Just finished a short X-Plane cross country across the mountains out of KSLC because the real weather is so awful outside.But, as usual, I came away from this adventure with a slight headache. I always get headaches with X-Plane! Despite rumors of superior flight dynamics, it's just too twitchy! It still lacks in the basics of feel, such as dampening, mass, inertia, and power to weight. As someone else mentioned, the feel is "arcade", despite what X-Plane marketing says. I still have to agree. If I want that sensation of feel, that somehow re-creates sensations from a real plane, then that FSX addon -- SF260 pictured in the above reply, sure does a great job!Other than that, I've used demo and bought en versions of X-Plane for a lot of years, right along with the MSFS series. I don't see it passing MSFS anytime soon. Just too many exceptional 3rd party addons for MSFS. I usually use X-Plane for a different version of topography with it's global disks. But as a pilot/plane owner, I'm not that thrilled "flying" X-Plane...L.Adamson

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The Pentium D is a Netburst architecture chip (Pentium IV class). That's so 2005 ;-)

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South Park lol!!!Hey I still want a xplane shot - I took a whole bunch of the demo and this one guy really lost it at my crappy shots lol.... anyway, I want to see what the retail version looks like in LAX.Please?

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>South Park lol!!!>>Hey I still want a xplane shot - I took a whole bunch of the>demo and this one guy really lost it at my crappy shots>lol.... anyway, I want to see what the retail version looks>like in LAX.>>Please?>>I'd like to see NYC! One of the things that always drove me away from X-Plane was the generic nature of their scenery objects. There was very little recognizable scenery objects. For example, I have yet to see a shot in X-Plane, that had anything resembling the Empire State Building!!

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>I'd like to see NYC! One of the things that always drove me>away from X-Plane was the generic nature of their scenery>objects. There was very little recognizable scenery objects.>For example, I have yet to see a shot in X-Plane, that had>anything resembling the Empire State Building!!Had these two pics in my file. X-Plane version 8 -- New YorkFSX -- Generic New York. Sorry, it's the only X-Plane NYC pic that I have.X-Planehttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/189036.jpgFSXhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/189037.jpgL.Adamson

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Interesting, I wonder what X plane 9 looks like?Oh, and Nick, what does:DisablePreload=1do?

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>Interesting, I wonder what X plane 9 looks like?>>Oh, and Nick, what does:>>DisablePreload=1>>do?>>Preload will load the scenery for the default startup flight when you first load FSX, which is fine if that's the flight you intend to fly, most though, change to different airports so it's loading it isn't necessary, and just takes more time. It could theoretically also reduce memory resources available, at least temporarily depending on how well housekeeping is done in the code when the new scenery is loaded. Disabling preload should speed up FSX startup.

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>>I'd like to see NYC! One of the things that always drove me>>away from X-Plane was the generic nature of their scenery>>objects. There was very little recognizable scenery objects.>>For example, I have yet to see a shot in X-Plane, that had>>anything resembling the Empire State Building!!>>Had these two pics in my file. X-Plane version 8 -- New York>FSX -- Generic New York. Sorry, it's the only X-Plane NYC pic>that I have.>>L.Adamson>Thanks! looks like nothing has changed, that and the poor ATC (Even worse than FS default) is a non starter for me!! With the combination of Default, ATC, Editvoicepack, and AISmooth, I'll stay with FSX ATC!!! There is also RC as an alternative. To my knowledge there are no 3rd party alternatives in X-Plane.

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Well what if I already skip the loading screen and have a default flight? I spose it wouldn't make a difference then...For instance, I have startup=0 or something like that in my CFG

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