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Your Thoughts on OH58D Kiowa

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The price range is a bit high for MSFS helicopters but it does look sweet. Been a customer of Just flight since 2013, but I would very appreciate your thoughts whether it is worth the pricetag? How is the flight physics? Thank you beforehand 

Edited by History

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Every time I buy an addon for MSFS that I already have in DCS World I end up disappointed...

Every. Single. Time.

Even the IFT/Heatblur F-14 has enough limitations that I never fly it in MSFS while I frequently fly it in DCSW.

So i'm going to skip this one and focus instead on the helos for MSFS I already have from Taogs, CowanSim, HPG, BlackBird, et al.

p.s., now that I think of it, the UH-1H by Taog's is the sole exception to disappointment in MSFS vs DCS World addons.

p.s.s., this is NOT a Just Flight in-house production (e.g., their excellent Vulcan & BAe 146). They are only publishing this on behalf of whoever developed it.

Edited by UrgentSiesta

@UrgentSiesta 🙏

I couldn't have put it better !!!

MSFS FM is a joke compared to anything DCS done by ED or Bellsimtek...

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10 hours ago, jcomm said:

@UrgentSiesta 🙏

I couldn't have put it better !!!

MSFS FM is a joke compared to anything DCS done by ED or Bellsimtek...

Well, there are a handful of very good flight models in MSFS else I wouldn't be able to stand flying there. The FSR500 and the recent JF Hawk v2 easily come to mind, as well as the perennial benchmark of the A2A Sims Comanche.

As well the iniBuilds A300 is rather well behaved, and a few others to varying degrees. The C172 and Guimbal Cabri, being Asobo reference models, seem to compare quite well to their counterparts in other sims, et al.

IMHO the main difference is the nearly universal high quality of the DCSW flight models, especially in the edge of envelope flight that is so common in air combat.

Whereas in MSFS one needs to pay particular attention to the individual developer's track record to evaluate how well an addon might fly.

As said previously, the IFT/HB Tomcat in MSFS vs the HB Tomcat in DCS World is basically the case study - even the same developers working on the same addon can't deliver a uniform experience.

Then again, from what I've come to learn about the F-14, its aerodynamics are probably among the most complicated and (literally) dynamic of any aircraft to recreate. It's almost like a Transformer made real! 😉

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