I have not tried to use this plane since purchase, but after seeing some postings I thought I would try. I installed it into 2024, prepared to do a flight KONT/KPDX, but then as I tried to initialize the flight plan I discovered an irritating problem. Simbrief assigned me the Sunshine 5 departure (SNSHN5) with an EHF transition... but when looking in the FMS it was ONLY offering two transitions, i tried paging or scrolling and no, no mistake, it only showed two, BEALE and COREZ I believe. I double checked a couple other planes to be sure, 777F and a 330, yup they offered the correct 5 transitions. 

Is this problem known, could this be a Navigraph issue, that seems unlikely to me, but this annoys the heck out of me, I've not gone on to investigate other airports or departures to see if its some stupid limitation due to the FMS display or something. But would like to know if they know about this?

Thanks!

FYI, did some more investigation, it's much worse than I thought, I picked KLAX, KPDX, KMEM, looked at the charts for SIDS, and then spawned the plane there, turns out the FMS is programmed in a way that seems to make it incapable of displaying more than a couple transitions, sigh....

This makes the plane completely unusable, I wonder if they thought they could hide this word not allowed? I mean this should be an embarassment!!

 

1 hour ago, jfv said:

FYI, did some more investigation, it's much worse than I thought, I picked KLAX, KPDX, KMEM, looked at the charts for SIDS, and then spawned the plane there, turns out the FMS is programmed in a way that seems to make it incapable of displaying more than a couple transitions, sigh....

This makes the plane completely unusable, I wonder if they thought they could hide this word not allowed? I mean this should be an embarassment!!

 

I can promise you this is absolutely not the case. The MD11 isn’t my favorite plane, but all of the transitions are there. I suspect your navigraph data isn’t updated. It could also be you’re using an outdated version and need to run the manager again. Lastly, the MD11 as far as I know isn’t “officially” supported in 2024 yet.

6 hours ago, jfv said:

Is this problem known, could this be a Navigraph issue, that seems unlikely to me, but this annoys the heck out of me, I've not gone on to investigate other airports or departures to see if its some stupid limitation due to the FMS display or something. But would like to know if they know about this?

After you update the navdata from Navigraph or the product via TFDi Manager, run the 'MSFS Layout Generator' on the layout.json file of the MD11. That will fix the issue. 

More here.

OK, this is something I'm happy to be wrong about, I will investigate, thanks so much for the responses!!

Jack

 

OK, mea culpa, last time I was in a hurry, i did the install of the plane, then immediately moved the community files to 2024 forgetting of course that the Navigraph data is not shared with the sim, although I think I ran the Navigraph update afterwards, it clearly didn't work. This morning I reinstalled into 2020 and then did the update there. Loaded that, and now the transitions are correct. So this is my fault.... well, my mistake, it would be nice to just have this as a proper 2024 install. In any case, now I can proceed to trying a flight to see how that works, I want to fly the MD-11 and not use XP12 🙂 

7 hours ago, AstralNought said:

After you update the navdata from Navigraph or the product via TFDi Manager, run the 'MSFS Layout Generator' on the layout.json file of the MD11. That will fix the issue. 

More here.

Yes, this was necessary, so does this have to be done every time the nav data is updated? This is a nuisance 🙂

Thanks loads for pointing it out though!

2 hours ago, jfv said:

Yes, this was necessary, so does this have to be done every time the nav data is updated? This is a nuisance 🙂

Thanks loads for pointing it out 

Until it is officially made compatible with 2024, yes, anytime there is an update to the aircraft or the navdata, the step needs to be repeated.